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RE: Will we see players kneel? - TheUberHuber - 09-25-2017
Baby boomers and there shit ass kids always need somethi g to complain about. If you grew up in Fairfield, west Chester, Madeira, and you think you actually have a ***** clew about racial injustices you are a complete clown. Maybe you should take you pride out of your ass and try listening for a change because your ignorant ass opinions are getting old.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - Benton - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 12:14 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: President Trump is not only a leader, he is the leader of the free world. You may not like him, may not agree with him but he is a great leader or he would not have become the POTUS and been successful his entire life at anything he touched.
Like it or not, he is your leader!
This is sarcasm, right?
RE: Will we see players kneel? - Luvnit2 - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 01:55 PM)Benton Wrote: This is sarcasm, right?
Successful Family and Kids
Successful Business
Voted in as POTUS
What have you accomplished again to insinuate someone else is not successful? Why do those who accomplish little try and belittle those who accomplish a lot? I guess jealousy.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - Benton - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 02:04 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Successful Family and Kids
Successful Business
Voted in as POTUS
What have you accomplished again to insinuate someone else is not successful? Why do those who accomplish little try and belittle those who accomplish a lot? I guess jealousy.
Heck if I know, why did you just try to do it to me?
RE: Will we see players kneel? - WeezyBengal - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 01:55 PM)Benton Wrote: This is sarcasm, right?
Im not around P and R enough to know if that entire post was sarcasm. I really hope it was.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - WeezyBengal - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 12:14 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: President Trump is not only a leader, he is the leader of the free world. You may not like him, may not agree with him but he is a great leader or he would not have become the POTUS and been successful his entire life at anything he touched.
Like it or not, he is your leader!
You cant just tell people who their leader is and expect them to follow. Your post makes zero sense. You need a lesson on effective leadership.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - Luvnit2 - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 02:39 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: You cant just tell people who their leader is and expect them to follow. Your post makes zero sense. You need a lesson on effective leadership.
Effective leaders win. Trump won, get over it, you lost.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - Benton - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 02:38 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Im not around P and R enough to know if that entire post was sarcasm. I really hope it was.
Apparently it wasn't. Three wives, several bankruptcies, dozens of failed business ventures, loan defaults, losses of hundreds of millions of dollars.
I guess if I was being nice I would say he succeeded at turning failure into a business model.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - Shake n Blake - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 02:48 PM)Benton Wrote: Apparently it wasn't. Three wives, several bankruptcies, dozens of failed business ventures, loan defaults, losses of hundreds of millions of dollars.
I guess if I was being nice I would say he succeeded at turning failure into a business model.
The guy has a net worth of 3.5 billion though. I wish I could fail that much.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - GMDino - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 02:53 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: The guy has a net worth of 3.5 billion though. I wish I could fail that much.
Does he?
Or did HE say he did?
RE: Will we see players kneel? - Shake n Blake - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 02:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: Does he?
Or did HE say he did?
Forbes said it.
https://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/
RE: Will we see players kneel? - WeezyBengal - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 02:45 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Effective leaders win. Trump won, get over it, you lost.
I voted for Trump and I still don't say hes an effective leader.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - GMDino - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 02:59 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Forbes said it.
https://www.forbes.com/profile/donald-trump/
Oh the values of his properties. I thought that was what he was worth.
Even though that has dropped.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-21/trump-s-net-worth-slips-to-2-9-billion-as-towers-underperform
RE: Will we see players kneel? - Shake n Blake - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 03:08 PM)GMDino Wrote: Oh the values of his properties. I thought that was what he was worth.
Even though that has dropped.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-21/trump-s-net-worth-slips-to-2-9-billion-as-towers-underperform
I said "net worth".
Forbes says his net worth is $3.5 billion.
No matter which way you try to approach this, it's undeniable that Trump has been successful in business. It's ludicrous to suggest otherwise.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - GMDino - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 03:10 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I said "net worth".
Forbes says his net worth is $3.5 billion.
No matter which way you try to approach this, it's undeniable that Trump has been successful in business. It's ludicrous to suggest otherwise.
Actually I could say he's had many, many failures...used the bankruptcy laws to avoid suffering from them...and has a huge amount of debt that we know nothing about.
But I will concede that the properties that his company owns are worth a lot of money and he heads that company.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - BengalHawk62 - 09-25-2017
Who cares if they kneel? Its their right to protest. My god, this is the biggest non story story I've ever seen. You can try to blame Obama for the Kap thing, but yesterday was all in protest to the little man in the WH today. Thanks to him, we now have politics in football. But honestly, who cares if they kneel, don't kneel, stay in the locker room, stand in the tunnel, put a hand over their heart, bang their wife, give their boyfriend a hand job, goes to take a leak, and stand in line to grab a box of popcorn and a soda. who gives a flyin' ****?!?!?!
RE: Will we see players kneel? - Benton - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 03:10 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I said "net worth".
Forbes says his net worth is $3.5 billion.
No matter which way you try to approach this, it's undeniable that Trump has been successful in business. It's ludicrous to suggest otherwise.
That's been pretty well considered why he doesn't want to release tax returns or some other types of disclosures. His net worth has ranged from (according to him) several billion to (according to some others) a few hundred million.
But it's not so far fetched to point out his business failure, despite whether he's worth millions or billions.
http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/
Quote:Trump's net worth has grown about 300% to an estimated $4 billion since 1987, according to a report by the Associated Press. But the real estate mogul would have made even more money if he had just invested in index funds. The AP says that, if Trump had invested in an index fund in 1988, his net worth would be as much as $13 billion.
The S&P 500 has grown 1,336% since 1988.
Other billionaires' net worths have beaten the stock market's growth in that time. Bill Gates, for example, saw his grow increase 7,173% since 1988 to $80 billion. Warren Buffet's wealth grew 2,612% in the same time period, to $67.8 billion.
Although, to be fair, other people have claimed this isn't true.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/
Quote:The only way to hit the $8 billion mark is to start with $200 million in 1982, and it's wrong to say that was Trump's father's money. While the father's business put Trump on the path to have $200 million in 1982, Trump himself had been running the company for eight years.
By their estimate, Trump couldn't have made more money not doing anything as he was only given tens of millions and not hundreds of millions to start out with. Either way, I don't consider failing excessively as success, even if you still come out with money.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - Shake n Blake - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 03:17 PM)GMDino Wrote: Actually I could say he's had many, many failures...used the bankruptcy laws to avoid suffering from them...and has a huge amount of debt that we know nothing about.
But I will concede that the properties that his company owns are worth a lot of money and he heads that company.
How exactly did Trump come to own those properties that are worth billions? He must have done something right, although you're reluctant to admit it.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - Shake n Blake - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 03:30 PM)Benton Wrote: That's been pretty well considered why he doesn't want to release tax returns or some other types of disclosures. His net worth has ranged from (according to him) several billion to (according to some others) a few hundred million.
But it's not so far fetched to point out his business failure, despite whether he's worth millions or billions.
http://fortune.com/2015/08/20/donald-trump-index-funds/
Although, to be fair, other people have claimed this isn't true.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/
By their estimate, Trump couldn't have made more money not doing anything as he was only given tens of millions and not hundreds of millions to start out with. Either way, I don't consider failing excessively as success, even if you still come out with money.
I think it's safe to say Donald came out worth more money than when he started. To me that's success.
RE: Will we see players kneel? - Benton - 09-25-2017
(09-25-2017, 03:31 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: How exactly did Trump come to own those properties that are worth billions? He must have done something right, although you're reluctant to admit it.
![[Image: donald-trump-father-kkk.jpg?fit=640%2C361]](https://i0.wp.com/thegrio.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/donald-trump-father-kkk.jpg?fit=640%2C361)
His dad was a very smart man who built a business from very little. He also had some luck in developing at a time when New York was growing.
He turned it over to Trump who used what his dad built to leverage more property, which was largely successful. But then he got into other ventures, which failed pretty miserably, from Trump Airlines to Trump Vodka to Trump Meats to foreign made Trump Clothes.