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RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - fredtoast - 12-27-2016 (12-27-2016, 04:35 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Maybe it's the: The UNited States was offered the Spike Missiles back in the 90's and rejected them in favor of our own system. Since then Israel has sold Spike Missiles to dozens of countries that do not give Israel $10 million a day. I believe that United State's Raytheon had a hand in developing the Iron Curtain system, but the US does not really need a defense system against short range missiles. Any technology they share with us is not worth the amount of money we give them. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - GMDino - 12-27-2016 (12-27-2016, 04:35 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Oh I don't know, the Country is ranked 5th in innovative Technologies by Bloomberg. They gonna send any of that money back then? ![]() RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - fredtoast - 12-27-2016 Israel is claiming that they have proof that the United States was the main actor behind the resolution. Let's see if they get so upset they refuse any of our money. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - GMDino - 12-27-2016 (12-27-2016, 05:13 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Israel is claiming that they have proof that the United States was the main actor behind the resolution. Heck they'll want more because we did something. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - Benton - 12-27-2016 (12-27-2016, 04:35 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Oh I don't know, the Country is ranked 5th in innovative Technologies by Bloomberg. Eh, outside of the Arrow, it's been more of a one way street with the U.S. providing technical data or introducing manufacturers like U.S. based Lockheed to Israel. Obama requested we fund Iron Dome installations on behalf of Israel... not the U.S. (I know, I know, Obama supposedly hates the country, and the fact he asked Congress for a couple hundred million goes against most of what propaganda sites have been saying, but it's true). What did we get out of it? Just a warm fuzzy feeling for saving Israeli citizens (which, personally, I'm ok with). Did they give us the Iron Dome for our gift of helping them save lives? ![]() Instead, it opened doors for Raytheon — a U.S. weapons manufacturer owned by a handful of investment companies and the ever-present BlackRock — to try to work out a deal with Rafael (the Israeli arms counterpart) where Raytheon would use it's DC connections to gets another couple hundred million out of Congress to start integrating Rafael's technology into it's own for a U.S. version. In other words, Raytheon wanted the US to pay hundreds of millions to get technology it had already spent hundreds of millions to help build. tl;dr, We give Israel $3 billion... plus $200 million... they develop Iron Dome and then try to sell it to us for another $200-$300 million. Come on, man, if that's the plan, just round our current budget up to $600 billion and have Raytheon or whoever build it themselves for a couple billion. Or, hell, even better, pull back our global police force and pump $500 billion a year into cutting the deficit. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - Mike M (the other one) - 12-27-2016 (12-27-2016, 05:05 PM)fredtoast Wrote: The UNited States was offered the Spike Missiles back in the 90's and rejected them in favor of our own system. Since then Israel has sold Spike Missiles to dozens of countries that do not give Israel $10 million a day. (12-27-2016, 05:07 PM)GMDino Wrote: They gonna send any of that money back then? (12-27-2016, 05:25 PM)Benton Wrote: Eh, outside of the Arrow, it's been more of a one way street with the U.S. providing technical data or introducing manufacturers like U.S. based Lockheed to Israel. Learn how to read people. I said we pay them to keep that technology out of the hands of Russia and China. So if you want to make comparisons, make it with Russia, China and Israel. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - GMDino - 12-27-2016 (12-27-2016, 06:09 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Learn how to read people. Why would they give the technology to Russia or China in the first place? If those two countries paid more would they blow us off and give it to them? RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - Belsnickel - 12-27-2016 (12-27-2016, 06:09 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Learn how to read people. They wouldn't dare. Putting it into the hands of China or Russia means it will end up in the hands of people that don't like them. They know that those two countries are far more likely to let that technology go for a big enough price tag. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - Mike M (the other one) - 12-27-2016 (12-27-2016, 09:20 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: They wouldn't dare. Putting it into the hands of China or Russia means it will end up in the hands of people that don't like them. They know that those two countries are far more likely to let that technology go for a big enough price tag. Where have you been? They have sold both some military technology in the recent past. In fact, China is selling J-10's to Iran and those fighter planes have Israeli technology in them. Also isn't Russia deploying Israeli Drones in Syria right now? RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - GMDino - 12-27-2016 (12-27-2016, 06:09 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Learn how to read people. ![]() (12-27-2016, 09:30 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Where have you been? They have sold both some military technology in the recent past. ![]() RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - Belsnickel - 12-27-2016 (12-27-2016, 09:30 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Where have you been? They have sold both some military technology in the recent past. Those are different things than Iron Dome. Sales of military technology like what you describe happen all the time, but there are certain things that they will be much more selective as to whom those things are sold. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - Vas Deferens - 12-27-2016 I guess these values do match up with many right wing Americans when you think about it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5jG6kJm-50k Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions. It's the only way to change an apartheid state's policy. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - Benton - 12-27-2016 (12-27-2016, 09:30 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Where have you been? They have sold both some military technology in the recent past. so we give them billions so they don't sell military technology to Russia and china. And we know they would because they've sold military tech to Russia and China? I want a dang refund then. seriously though, that has nothing to do with it. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - GMDino - 12-28-2016 http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/12/28/john-kerry-middle-east-peace/95904264/ Quote:A vote on approving permits for the construction of hundreds of homes for Israelis in East Jerusalem was canceled Wednesday, ahead of a speech by Secretary of State John Kerry that will outline the Obama administration's vision for peace in the Middle East. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 12-28-2016 (12-27-2016, 03:03 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Well one would think if you are going to ***** about sending them money, then you should know why we are sending them money. Instead of "parroting the left agenda". Extortion. Thanks for clearing it up. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - oncemoreuntothejimbreech - 12-28-2016 (12-23-2016, 01:20 PM)Dill Wrote: I agree, but it's too late. Egypt has already withdrawn it. Certainly not going to help Trump bomb the shit out of ISIS. If there is one thing our Arab allies in the fight against ISIS hate more than ISIS, it is Israel. Quickly followed by supporters of Israel and new Israeli settlements. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - GMDino - 12-29-2016 http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-netanyahu-idUSKBN14H1MM?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social Quote:Israel's attorney-general orders criminal probe against PM Netanyahu: TV RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - SunsetBengal - 12-29-2016 http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/pm-netanyahu-just-rocked-the-world-in-this-2-minute-speech/ Anyone see this? RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - Rotobeast - 12-29-2016 (12-29-2016, 02:28 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/pm-netanyahu-just-rocked-the-world-in-this-2-minute-speech/ Well... he can start by not bulldozing Palestinian homes. That would be a step in the right direction. The Palestinians are interacting within the cities, because cities are the only places they can work and shop. If young Palestinians throw rocks at Israeli soldiers, all checkpoints are locked down, all Palestinians are kept from working, and shopping. You can only make and spend (substantial amounts of) money in Jewish cities. There hasn't been a racket like that since the coal mining company stores. BTW.... I know a lot of people only know what has been shown on the news, so I'm not attacking anyone's position. I've just been lucky enough to speak to a few people who lived in the area. RE: Trump Pressures Obama Over U.N. Resolution on Israeli Settlements - fredtoast - 12-29-2016 (12-29-2016, 02:28 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: http://www.israelvideonetwork.com/pm-netanyahu-just-rocked-the-world-in-this-2-minute-speech/ This is like when white people cry and try and play the victim card over BET even though they control 95% of all the media. Israel has a stranglehold on all the infrastructure and commerce in the area yet they are not satisfied. The also want to take over the Palistinian areas. |