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RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - BmorePat87 - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 01:57 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/11/24/rubio-us-should-respond-and-defend-turkey-if-it-is-attacked-by-russia/

And of course Rubio wants to defend turkey from Russia.

As he should. What good is NATO if we don't defend Turkey if they are attacked?


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - Benton - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 01:57 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/11/24/rubio-us-should-respond-and-defend-turkey-if-it-is-attacked-by-russia/

And of course Rubio wants to defend turkey from Russia.

They're a NATO, we're a NATO. That makes sense.


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - fredtoast - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 11:57 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: As he should. What good is NATO if we don't defend Turkey if they are attacked?

(11-25-2015, 12:36 PM)Benton Wrote: They're a NATO, we're a NATO. That makes sense.


But, but, but Putin is the only one who protects Christians while Turkey is full of savage Muslims.


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - Bengalzona - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 11:57 AM)BmorePat87 Wrote: As he should. What good is NATO if we don't defend Turkey if they are attacked?

Except in the case of France where they are a NATO member.... but just don't participate militarily. Ninja


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - Benton - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 01:17 PM)fredtoast Wrote: But, but, but Putin is the only one who protects Christians while Turkey is full of savage Muslims.

Ergo, Rubio is a Muslim.

Conservative logic.


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - Rotobeast - 11-25-2015

'Turkey gave no warning' - downed Russian pilot


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34925229


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - Benton - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 01:35 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: 'Turkey gave no warning' - downed Russian pilot


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34925229

If true, then Turkey needs to apologize.

But I would take it with a grain of salt. If I had spent five minutes avoiding warnings that lead to a crew member getting killed, I'd probably say I didn't hear it either.


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - SteelCitySouth - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 01:35 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: 'Turkey gave no warning' - downed Russian pilot


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34925229

yup...and the russian airliner wasn't brought down by a bomb...like the US said it was...Until later it was proven it was....Of course Russia has to get one of these right sometime, so I guess it could be true.


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - bfine32 - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 01:59 PM)Benton Wrote: If true, then Turkey needs to apologize.

"My bad" should cover it.


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - Rotobeast - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 01:59 PM)Benton Wrote: If true, then Turkey needs to apologize.

But I would take it with a grain of salt. If I had spent five minutes avoiding warnings that lead to a crew member getting killed, I'd probably say I didn't hear it either.

(11-25-2015, 02:10 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: yup...and the russian airliner wasn't brought down by a bomb...like the US said it was...Until later it was proven it was....Of course Russia has to get one of these right sometime, so I guess it could be true.

Yeah, no idea of validity.
I just thought it might add to the conversation. 


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - Benton - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 02:25 PM)bfine32 Wrote: "My bad" should cover it.

I wonder when Russia will issue their "my bad" for invading Turkish air space with a military bomber?

Who am I kidding, I'm not wondering that at all.


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - Bengalzona - 11-25-2015

Of course, the Russians would never have done something as bad as shooting down another country's aircraft:

http://theweek.com/articles/445179/heres-last-time-russia-shot-down-passenger-plane


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - StLucieBengal - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 09:49 AM)GMDino Wrote: [Image: suncorp-the-agile-approach-why-its-a-mus...1302544558]

(In referring to the "right"'s fawning over Putin):



Shall we continue?


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Yes Dino I am a type A man. And I respect other men who are the same. I do not respect these metrosexual soft men who talk about their feelings all the time that we seem to be developing today. They are fine to be around and all, but I certainly don't want a waffler who no one respects leading me.


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - StLucieBengal - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 02:30 PM)Benton Wrote: I wonder when Russia will issue their "my bad" for invading Turkish air space with a military bomber?

Who am I kidding, I'm not wondering that at all.

Would it be invading of they are all nato and the Russians are bombing in Syria? It's not like they were in the middle of the turkey flying over Istanbul .

Not making an excuse just bringing up a possible situation.


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - Vas Deferens - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 04:22 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Yes Dino I am a type A man.   And I respect other men who are the same.   I do not respect these metrosexual soft men who talk about their feelings all the time that we seem to be developing today.    They are fine to be around and all, but I certainly don't want a waffler who no one respects leading me.


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RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - StLucieBengal - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 04:32 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: [Image: Buzz8.jpg]

Packs don't follow weak leaders. That's just nature.


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - BmorePat87 - 11-25-2015

I think Lucie was one of those feral kids in the Ukraine raised by dogs.


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - BmorePat87 - 11-25-2015

Hahaha, literally right when I posted that, the radio said "Raised by wild dogs... It's Klinger on DC101"


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - fredtoast - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 04:22 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Yes Dino I am a type A man.   And I respect other men who are the same.   I do not respect these metrosexual soft men who talk about their feelings all the time that we seem to be developing today.    They are fine to be around and all, but I certainly don't want a waffler who no one respects leading me.

This does not even make any sense.

Just because a guy talks about his feelings that does not have anything to do with being a "waffler who no one respects".  In fact I would be ashamed to claim that I was "afraid" to talk about my feelings.  How can a man be strong if he lives in "fear" of something like that?

And personally I would rather have a leader who is flexible and able to adapt instead of just insisting his is right and refusing to change plans when everything goes to hell.   

"Confidence" has zero to do with "competence".   In fact some of the dumbest men I know are also the ones who are most confident that they are always right. 


RE: Turkey shooting down Russian planes - fredtoast - 11-25-2015

(11-25-2015, 04:43 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Packs don't follow weak leaders.   That's just nature.

Being afraid to talk about your feelings is a sign of weakness.  A real man does not let fear control his life.

Was Ghandi "weak"?  Because he was one of the greatest leaders of the last century.

How about your Jesus?  Was he weak?