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RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - Vas Deferens - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 12:40 PM)bfine32 Wrote: If you don't think there is a good percentage of Hip-Hop music that promotes, illegal activities, violence, and racisim; then we just disagree. Serious question. What percentage of 'hip hop' do you believe promotes racism? Give me a loose estimate. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - GMDino - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:22 PM)bfine32 Wrote: What in that report leads you to believe he was aggressive? The walking part or the white part? The part where he came back into the frame with a "confrontational" stance. Which is probably the part you skipped. ![]() Anywho: http://www.socialsciencecareers.org/10-rock-concerts-which-resulted-in-bloodshed/ Quote:10 ROCK CONCERTS WHICH RESULTED IN BLOODSHED Now admittedly this list is from 2012 and we ALL know that hip-hop has been promoting: " violence, hatred, and racism" for just the past couple years. ![]() So its possible hip-hop is secretly behind all of these. Or we could follow these wise words: ![]() RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:30 PM)GMDino Wrote: The part where he came back into the frame with a "confrontational" stance. Yeah I read it and I also saw the video where he has his "arms raised in what appears to be a confrontational gesture" (what ever that means) after about 4-5 guys to turns taking sucker punches. Some folks do try to defend themselves. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - GMDino - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Yeah I read it and I also saw the video where he has his "arms raised in what appears to be a confrontational gesture" (what ever that means) after about 4-5 guys to turns taking sucker punches. Some folks think they are bad ass and can take on 4-5 guys. Probably best to walk away once the fight is over. But maybe the victim was a hip-hop fan too and wanted to promote " violence, hatred, and racism". RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - Nately120 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:26 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Serious question. What percentage of 'hip hop' do you believe promotes racism? Give me a loose estimate. 487% RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - GMDino - 07-07-2015 http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news/crime/2015/06/29/man-beaten-to-death-after-kenny-chesney-concert/29474221/ Damn country music promoting " violence, hatred, and racism". Man beaten to death after Kenny Chesney concert Quote:SEATTLE, Wash. -- Seattle Police are asking for the public's help finding a suspect in the death of a man after a fight near CenturyLink Field Saturday night. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:26 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Serious question. What percentage of 'hip hop' do you believe promotes racism? Give me a loose estimate. Not sure I could put a number on it; loose estimate on racisim alone: 5% Of course that varies with what the listener considers "promoting racisim". Serious question: What percentage do you say is acceptable? Now as far as Violence, misogyny, drug use, and other illegal activities I would put the percentage much higher. Some consider 25% a modest estimate. Serious question: What percentage do you say is acceptable? I see the direction folks are trying to steer the discussion. The purpose of the OP was to illustrate that the "symbol" is probably a whole lot less to blame that the criminal. I do not think that everone that listens to hip-hop is racist, but I also don't think that everyone that owns a Confederate Flag or its image is racist. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - Nately120 - 07-07-2015 You can type "FIGHT AT ______" and pretty much put anything in there and you'll come up with people beating each other everywhere. Here is a country concert with a bunch o' white boys beatin' on each other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVFZAbwrPDk RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 01:57 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://www.13newsnow.com/story/news/crime/2015/06/29/man-beaten-to-death-after-kenny-chesney-concert/29474221/ Yes, I can see how two men getting in a fight after a concert is the same thing. Great link. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 02:18 PM)Nately120 Wrote: You can type "FIGHT AT ______" and pretty much put anything in there and you'll come up with people beating each other everywhere. Here is a country concert with a bunch o' white boys beatin' on each other. No doubt every fight that ever occured in any venue is relevant to one man getting attacked by upwards of 40 people. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - GMDino - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 02:19 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Yes, I can see how two men getting in a fight after a concert is the same thing. Great link. So you DO understand false equivalency then! ![]() RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - Nately120 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 02:22 PM)bfine32 Wrote: No doubt every fight that ever occured in any venue is relevant to one man getting attacked by upwards of 40 people. Are you trying to tell me you don't hold white people at a country concert to a higher standard than a mob of blacks bred on hip hop? RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - GMDino - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 02:33 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Are you trying to tell me you don't hold white people at a country concert to a higher standard than a mob of blacks bred on hip hop? He's saying hip-hop promotes: " violence, hatred, and racism". And should be banned like the confederate flag. Seriously. ![]() RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - Nately120 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 02:37 PM)GMDino Wrote: He's saying hip-hop promotes: " violence, hatred, and racism". Wal Mart doesn't sell either. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 02:33 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Are you trying to tell me you don't hold white people at a country concert to a higher standard than a mob of blacks bred on hip hop? First of all: why are folks trying so hard to make it a black and white issue? I didn't even mention race until I responded to post #13 that introduced the "race card". It's just easier to attack someone's POV once you label them a racist. Do you realize there are studies that young white males are the largest demographic that listen to rap music? But to answer your question. I do not. I would be outraged if there was a video of 40 white people beating a black man at a country concert. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - bfine32 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 02:37 PM)GMDino Wrote: He's saying hip-hop promotes: " violence, hatred, and racism". Where did I say either should be banned? I simply asked if someone thought the Confederate flag should be banned for violence, hatred, and racisim; then should music that promotes such activity. Unless you are gonna go with the notion that a portion of rap music doesn't promote illegal activity. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - GMDino - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 02:46 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Where did I say either should be banned? I simply asked if someone thought the Confederate flag should be banned for violence, hatred, and racisim; then should music that promotes such activity. Oh...now a "portion" "promotes" it. Got it. ![]() RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - Nately120 - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 02:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: First of all: why are folks trying so hard to make it a black and white issue? I didn't even mention race until I responded to post #13 that introduced the "race card". It's just easier to attack someone's POV once you label them a racist. I'm not saying you are making it a black and white issue, but 40 black guys beating up one white guy is a black and white issue in my mind. RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - SteelCitySouth - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 02:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I didn't even mention race until I responded to post #13 that introduced the "race card". Please review Post #5 RE: Should we push to remove Hip-Hop Concerts? - Benton - 07-07-2015 (07-07-2015, 02:56 AM)bfine32 Wrote: So is it your assertion that everyone/ everyplace that displays the Confederate flag is racist? Uh... you were the one validating the "Confederate Flag is a symbol of hate and racism" theory in an attempt to discourage hip hop. (07-07-2015, 03:03 AM)bfine32 Wrote: I an assuming you missed my association of the innocent(s) (lone white guy, church congregation) with the perpetrator(s) (white racist, Hip-Hop). The flaw here is hip hop isn't a perpetrator. The whatever it was you posted was about a white guy beaten up by black guys, not audible vibrations. So, your association is black+church=provocation of a white racist is equal to white+hip hop=provocation of a black racist(s). What you're saying is black+church=provocation of a white racist is equal to white=provocation of hip hop listening black racists. |