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RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - Mike M (the other one) - 08-06-2019 (08-06-2019, 01:00 AM)Benton Wrote: Not likely to happen. Uhm what mall do you go to that has that many people trying to get in all at once all day? Yes when the mall opens it will be a little backed up, but that's why you let employees in before the mall opens to the general public. I've been in long lines to get into a mall before that has these checks in place already. It doesn't take much longer than 5 minutes to get thru the line and get inside. And yes if someone is going to do something bad, security is only a small deterent but one none the less. Anyways we all needed a good distraction in an election year to distract us from the Epstein case. ![]() RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - Nately120 - 08-06-2019 (08-06-2019, 01:51 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Anyways we all needed a good distraction in an election year to distract us from the Epstein case. Ida know, I'm under the impression the Epstein case is good to keep in the public mind since each side can point out that the "other side" is with him, not us! RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - Mike M (the other one) - 08-06-2019 (08-06-2019, 01:30 PM)jj22 Wrote: I disagree. You guys don't care about European illegal immigrants. You have the right to disagree, but I also disagree with you. The term Illegal Immigrants to me isn't about race, color or ethnic. Illegal is illegal. (08-06-2019, 01:54 PM)Nately120 Wrote: Ida know, I'm under the impression the Epstein case is good to keep in the public mind since each side can point out that the "other side" is with him, not us! You would think, but in reality I think neither side wants any dirt shoved on them. I think personally both sides will get dirt so both sides need to be careful what they say. RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - Vas Deferens - 08-06-2019 (08-06-2019, 01:51 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Uhm what mall do you go to that has that many people trying to get in all at once all day? I believe I know the ridiculous answer to this, but just for shits and giggles... Where? What mall have you been to with security check points at every entrance? .... RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - jj22 - 08-06-2019 (08-06-2019, 02:54 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: You have the right to disagree, but I also disagree with you. Maybe to you and I take your word for it. But if you mention illegal immigration to Trump supporters and they are talking about brown people. Heck, I'm not even sure they know there are many other illegal immigrants living right under their nose but they are European and look like them so they aren't a threat or to give them the benefit of doubt, they don't recognize them as being from somewhere else. RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - michaelsean - 08-07-2019 (08-06-2019, 03:26 PM)jj22 Wrote: Maybe to you and I take your word for it. But if you mention illegal immigration to Trump supporters and they are talking about brown people. I think Europeans make up about 5% of the illegal population. You don't hear about illegal Africans. Why? Because they make up 3% of the illegal population. RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - GMDino - 08-07-2019 Well that was fun while it lasted.
RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - michaelsean - 08-07-2019 (08-07-2019, 10:20 AM)Vas Deferens Wrote: smart Just commenting on the suggested brown skin phobia. Although I suppose North Africans would be of about an equal level of brown. i believe the white population is under 10%, but if you think that takes away from the point, I'll delete it. RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - GMDino - 08-07-2019
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RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - Benton - 08-07-2019 (08-06-2019, 01:51 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Uhm what mall do you go to that has that many people trying to get in all at once all day? I agree, it's not a big deal, but mall owners aren't going to risk turning away traffic. A shooting happens and in a few months traffic returns to normal. They hire a couple extra security guards and things go on. But ask someone to take off their belt buckle, jacket and empty out their pockets? They'll just go to WalMart or Amazon it. RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - michaelsean - 08-07-2019 (08-07-2019, 11:36 AM)GMDino Wrote: A vicious attack? The guy did compare him to George Wallace which seems at least as vicious. Millions of people have called Trump incompetent. Don't recall them being classified as vicious. RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-07-2019 On the subject of politically motivated mass shootings. We've been inundated since this weekend about the dangers of white supremacy, which would indicate that they consider a lot of these mass shooting to be perpetrated by its adherents. We've also been told that the Dayton shooter has been confirmed as a far left supporter but that his shooting was not politically motivated, fair enough. This begs the question, how many of the mass shootings within the past five years could then, using the same standard of judgment, be considered motivated by white supremacy? Dillon Roof to be sure, the synagogue shooter as well. I'm sure there are others but those two are the only ones that leap to my mind. The point I'm getting at is that it seems the majority of these shootings are not being done with the goals of white supremacy in mind. The past weekend only one of them was. So why are we only hearing about white supremacy? Of course we should confront violent racism, but is this hyper focus on white supremacy as a motivation for these mass shootings accurate or fairly applied? Clearly this is not the only, or even main, motivation for these shootings, so why is it being discussed as if it is? RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - hollodero - 08-07-2019 (08-07-2019, 01:51 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Clearly this is not the only, or even main, motivation for these shootings, so why is it being discussed as if it is? I guess the reason would be that these politically motivated shootings are just one instance of white supremacy and its dangers of many. Also many totally dismiss the idea that white supremacy exists, which leads to a counterpoint and so on. When someone on FOX calls white supremacy a hoax, then the debate of course gets heated, not shut down. RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - Belsnickel - 08-07-2019 (08-07-2019, 01:51 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: On the subject of politically motivated mass shootings. We've been inundated since this weekend about the dangers of white supremacy, which would indicate that they consider a lot of these mass shooting to be perpetrated by its adherents. We've also been told that the Dayton shooter has been confirmed as a far left supporter but that his shooting was not politically motivated, fair enough. This begs the question, how many of the mass shootings within the past five years could then, using the same standard of judgment, be considered motivated by white supremacy? We're probably hearing about it because a decade ago, the Obama administration told us it was a growing threat to our national security, and now our FBI director is telling us it is our greatest terrorism threat in this country, likely because the resources hadn't been devoted to it as they should have been. Now there are reports (not saying whether this is true or not, just things I have read/heard) of federal agents saying there is a hesitance in actually engaging in enforcement with these groups because of POTUS seeing them as his base. Those are probably some of the factors at play as to why we are primarily hearing about white supremacy right now. RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - GMDino - 08-07-2019 (08-07-2019, 01:56 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: We're probably hearing about it because a decade ago, the Obama administration told us it was a growing threat to our national security, and now our FBI director is telling us it is our greatest terrorism threat in this country, likely because the resources hadn't been devoted to it as they should have been. Now there are reports (not saying whether this is true or not, just things I have read/heard) of federal agents saying there is a hesitance in actually engaging in enforcement with these groups because of POTUS seeing them as his base. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/8/6/20754828/el-paso-shooting-white-supremacy-rise Quote:At various points in the 20th century, white supremacists reacted viciously against continued immigration from ethnic and religious minorities and tried to suppress movements for black civil rights by force. In 1963 alone, they assassinated NAACP field secretary Medgar Evers and killed four black girls in a bombing attack on the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama. More at the link. Long article. RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - GMDino - 08-07-2019 (08-07-2019, 01:56 PM)hollodero Wrote: I guess the reason would be that these politically motivated shootings are just one instance of white supremacy and its dangers of many. Same FOX guy who rails about immigrants.
RE: Nearly 30 dead as multiple mass shootings hit across the US - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 08-07-2019 (08-07-2019, 01:56 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: We're probably hearing about it because a decade ago, the Obama administration told us it was a growing threat to our national security, and now our FBI director is telling us it is our greatest terrorism threat in this country, likely because the resources hadn't been devoted to it as they should have been. I think the far right brand of terrorism is what is most often discussed. Although they often have white supremacist leanings they are not inextricably linked. One can be rabidly anti-government and have no racist component to their radicalization. Do we know this hasn't been given the attention it deserves or is this speculation? It seems to me that Federal law enforcement has stopped several far right terror plots of late so they obviously aren't ignoring it. Quote:Now there are reports (not saying whether this is true or not, just things I have read/heard) of federal agents saying there is a hesitance in actually engaging in enforcement with these groups because of POTUS seeing them as his base. I know you aren't making this claim, but this statement is so insanely inflammatory (and highly unlikely IMO) that I'm going to need a source or I'm calling complete BS. Quote:Those are probably some of the factors at play as to why we are primarily hearing about white supremacy right now. I think it's some of that. It's also a way to indirectly, and directly, attack Trump and influence public opinion going into 2020. |