(02-03-2016, 05:14 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: Blake is absolute trash.

(02-03-2016, 06:03 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: I couldn't remember which Steeler corner was good and which wasn't. Got the two mixed up. I take pride in not knowing the Steelers, Ravens and Browns rosters that well lol.

Whichever one dances like a little B**** I wouldn't mind signing haha.

(02-03-2016, 06:09 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: Honestly, no member in the Steelers secondary is good.

(02-03-2016, 06:09 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: Honestly, no member in the Steelers secondary is good.

(02-03-2016, 06:13 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: Boykin was good in Philly then Pittsburgh never played him. 
It was weird. But I'd take him here. 

(02-03-2016, 06:19 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote: I never remember that he was traded there. That's how Pittsburgh used him. The guy is a really good slot CB and Pittsburgh finds a way to mess it up.

(02-04-2016, 01:33 AM)J24 Wrote: What about signing Terrance Kinghton or BJ Raji at nose tackle?

(02-01-2016, 03:35 PM)fredtoast Wrote: We need a good three-down LB and Danny Trevathan is a Ohio boy (Youngstown) who went to college in nearby Lexington.

He is still just 25 years old.

(02-04-2016, 03:43 PM)RoyleRedlegs Wrote: Eh. Too good of a draft to be doing that IMO. A lot of really good talent. 
Both guys have had really up and down careers that include some really awful years.
Have to be concerned with that when paying them as well as both are hitting that 30 year mark for DTs....

(02-04-2016, 01:33 AM)J24 Wrote: What about signing Terrance Kinghton or BJ Raji at nose tackle?

(02-03-2016, 06:14 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: Well, IDK the status of how much money these guys are going to be demanding this offseason, but there were some good pickings off the list I saw.

We definitely need a serviceable vet at corner tho. Not sure if I'm ready to hand the secondary over to the young guys quite yet.

(IF Dennard didn't get hurt last season, I would feel much more confident)

(02-05-2016, 11:08 AM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: Neither Kirkpatrick or Dennard is a young guy though.  Kirkpatrick is going into his fifth season and Dennard is going into his third.  Both were first round picks.  If they are not ready to take over the secondary, then we have to admit the team missed on one or both of the draft picks...

(02-05-2016, 11:08 AM)OrlandoBengal Wrote: Neither Kirkpatrick or Dennard is a young guy though.  Kirkpatrick is going into his fifth season and Dennard is going into his third.  Both were first round picks.  If they are not ready to take over the secondary, then we have to admit the team missed on one or both of the draft picks...

(02-05-2016, 04:37 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Still can't believe the Bengals are going to be paying Kirkpatrick $7.5m in 2016. After he was 3rd in the entire NFL in penalties, and had 16 missed tackles. Really need to drop that option like a hot potato.

Crazy thing is, Kirkpatrick has already played likely 40-50% of his career, yet some people still try to defend him by saying it was only his first year starting and he's young. Lol... 30-32 is the vanishing age for most CB. Those that play longer generally are able to substitute technique and knowledge when they lose a step. Kirkpatrick really doesn't have either at this point.

(02-05-2016, 09:31 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote:
1. Well Lapham has praised Kirkpatrick and as he has a bit more knowledge then you and I, Im going to assume 2. Dre is not as bad as some what to make him out to be, Lapham also mentioned 3. Dre played a bit banged up this year and felt that might have hindered his performance.  As for the Bengals and his contract.. .. with possible lose of Jones and letting Hall go and the injury to Dennard... 4. Kirpatrick's value goes up even if his performance this year was not overall that great especially with that lack of depth we are looking at with CB position.

(02-05-2016, 10:28 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: 1. Didn't he also praise Margus Hunt?

2. He was 3rd in penalties in the entire NFL at all positions, he had 16 missed tackles (2nd worst among CB), and ProFootballFocus (not gospel, but a decent metric for generalized arguments) gave him a 38.8... out of 100.0

3. This year? Has the dude ever NOT been hurt, then?

4. A turd with nobody ahead of him is still only a turd. Not worth $7.5m.. I would legitimately rather roll with Shaw over Kirkpatrick.


I don't think you really realize how bad Kirkpatrick was. If it wasn't for Reggie Nelson eating up all the deep passes, it would have been even uglier.

(02-07-2016, 03:05 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Time-to-jump-into-free-agency?page=5

Numbers don't lie. Cinci's pass defense was pretty good last year. Kirkpatrick is a part of that whether you like it or not. =)

If you go by passer rating and yards per attempt, Cinci is 4th behind DENVER, CAROLINA and KC...

I think that's hard to do with a complete chump at corner... Maybe Kirkpatrick isn't quite as bad as people think. He is the weak link on a strong defense... Of course its easy to call him a chump when the other guys you watch are Adam Jones, Leon Hall, Reggie Nelson and Iloka...


IDK... you guys just make it sound like, replace Kirkpatrick and we are the 00 Ravens... I don't see it.

(02-07-2016, 03:05 PM)GreenCornBengal Wrote: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Time-to-jump-into-free-agency?page=5

Numbers don't lie. Cinci's pass defense was pretty good last year. Kirkpatrick is a part of that whether you like it or not. =)

If you go by passer rating and yards per attempt, Cinci is 4th behind DENVER, CAROLINA and KC...

I think that's hard to do with a complete chump at corner... Maybe Kirkpatrick isn't quite as bad as people think. He is the weak link on a strong defense... Of course its easy to call him a chump when the other guys you watch are Adam Jones, Leon Hall, Reggie Nelson and Iloka...


IDK... you guys just make it sound like, replace Kirkpatrick and we are the 00 Ravens... I don't see it.