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RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Vas Deferens - 11-30-2015 (11-30-2015, 01:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: There is nothing wrong with such posts about the people involved...nothing at all. And perhaps we should be MORE concerned about them than what to "think" about each event. However this thread was presented as a rebuttal to the multitude of recent posts about the refugees that should be banned due to "violence" they "might" bring with them. Bingo. More convenient to some agenda's to move the discussion elsewhere. Sad. RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - bfine32 - 11-30-2015 (11-30-2015, 01:56 PM)GMDino Wrote: So it is a very slow day here (first day of hunting in PA) and I had time to go back an reread this thread to see if perhaps it had gone off-course somehow. This is quite pathetic and borderline disturbing. RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Vas Deferens - 11-30-2015 (11-30-2015, 06:00 PM)bfine32 Wrote: This is quite pathetic and borderline disturbing. How so? RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - michaelsean - 11-30-2015 (11-30-2015, 05:29 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Bingo. Some's agenda? ![]() ![]() ![]() Like the creation of this thread? RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - bfine32 - 11-30-2015 (11-30-2015, 06:04 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: How so? That someone would be obsessed enough to go back and quote every post in a feeble attempt to demonstarte he is "right"? Now that I have given you an answer how about weighing in on the point of contention. Is motive required to determine if an act is one of terrorism or not? Sorta like the OP stated Christian Religion was motivation for this act. RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - GMDino - 11-30-2015 (11-30-2015, 06:00 PM)bfine32 Wrote: This is quite pathetic and borderline disturbing. I know...I thought the same as I read all your replies in one place. ![]() RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Vas Deferens - 11-30-2015 (11-30-2015, 06:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: That someone would be obsessed enough to go back and quote every post in a feeble attempt to demonstarte he is "right"? My original point of contention is highlighted above. To your point of contention, as I understand it, yes - motive is one of the criteria involved in the definition of terrorism. It is pretty clear to me this individual had a religious / political agenda he was working from. Are you still doubting this? I apologize if I'm misunderstanding your question. I initially titled the thread as such to position this instance against the slander of other religions / races currently taking place around here. If you are merely saying we need to wait until we specifically know every detail of this individuals life in order to determine motive, go for it. Like I said previously, the fervor and vitriol conjured up with the PP videos pandered to people religiously opposed to abortion. If you don't want to have an abortion, don't have one. But don't stand in other people's way of obtaining one if they wish. Unfortunately those videos ended up pushing this guy to take up arms and go on a killing spree. RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Vas Deferens - 11-30-2015 (11-28-2015, 01:29 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: 1. Congrats on your Iranian gf. Not sure why you added that detail. But I'm glad to hear you are happy. The response I anticipated. 1. Added that detail in there just to let you know I'm boning a chick you would classify a savage. Not a big deal, she would classify you much worse, but based on your merits or lack thereof. 2. Yeah. I'll bet you would take me up. It was pretty cut and dry, but you know what the outcome will be so you chose not to take that bet. 3. I roll you into the radical category because thats the portrait you've painted. I doubt you remember half of the claims you've made, but some of them have been violent and meant to intimidate portions of the populace through force or oppressive tactics. Maybe its just you posturing and puffing up your feathers to make the internet know what a Type A kind of a guy you are, but you'll need to live with the outcome at this point. 4. Who said anything about betting on who looses their life next? I put the proposition on the table, you didn't want to take it. Not very Type A of you. As I said before. I'm still going to make a donation to a womens reproductive health centered charity in your honor. Going to reach out to a friend to see who she would suggest. Hopefully they have an 'in honor of' section on the donation form. RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Aquapod770 - 12-01-2015 Still waiting on V.D. to prove this dude is a Christian ![]() RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - GMDino - 12-01-2015 (12-01-2015, 02:37 PM)Aquapod770 Wrote: Still waiting on V.D. to prove this dude is a Christian Well, it depends. Do you believe this site: http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/planned-parenthood-shooter-not-fitting-lefts-stereotype/ Quote:Throughout Friday’s six-hour armed standoff at the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood facility that left three dead and nine wounded, social media feasted on the fact the gunman was described as a white man, as WND reported. Or this site that talked to people who knew him: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/former-wife-says-planned-parenthood-shooter-is-conservative-religious-and-anti-abortion/ Quote:People who knew the suspected gunman in the Colorado Springs shooting described him as a loner who was “weird” but had given few signs of violent behavior, US media reported Sunday. Or Ted Cruz: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/30/politics/ted-cruz-planned-parenthood-transgendered-leftist-activist/ Quote:Speaking about the alleged gunman, Robert Lewis Dear, at a campaign event in Iowa on Sunday, Cruz accused the media of wanting "to blame him on the pro-life movement when at this point there's very little evidence to indicate that." Audio of the comments was posted online by The Texas Tribune. Take your pick. ![]() RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Vas Deferens - 12-01-2015 (12-01-2015, 02:37 PM)Aquapod770 Wrote: Still waiting on V.D. to prove this dude is a Christian Can you prove he isn't? RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Rotobeast - 12-01-2015 (12-01-2015, 03:08 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Can you prove he isn't? Yes. A true Christian would have never done something like he did. If he was before, he ceased to be that day. Before it gets brought up, I also believe a true Muslim would never do such a thing. Crazy people exist in every demographic. RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - SteelCitySouth - 12-01-2015 (12-01-2015, 03:19 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Yes.Opinion is far from proof. Unless you claim to know the thoughts of god. If hat is the case then bravo, you're crazier than I thought. ![]() RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Benton - 12-01-2015 (11-30-2015, 06:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: That someone would be obsessed enough to go back and quote every post in a feeble attempt to demonstarte he is "right"? ![]() Amnesia or dementia? Anyway, I've stayed out of this thread largely because it's never good to jump to conclusions. But it's sounding more like it's got to do with extremist nature of the pro-life movement. Quote:What moved a man to kill three people and wound nine others at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado has not been disclosed. But the suspect accused of carrying out the shooting spree, Robert Lewis Dear, made remarks about "baby parts" to investigators after his surrender, a law enforcement official told CNN.http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/29/us/colorado-planned-parenthood-shooting/ RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Vas Deferens - 12-01-2015 (12-01-2015, 03:19 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Yes. Completely 100% Agree. Couldn't agree any more. Maximum amount of agreement has been reached. My approval meter is redlining. That's not to say he didn't believe he was acting on the moral authority instilled in him by his beliefs. RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Benton - 12-01-2015 (12-01-2015, 03:23 PM)SteelCitySouth Wrote: Opinion is far from proof. Unless you claim to know the thoughts of god. If hat is the case then bravo, you're crazier than I thought. Behold! ![]() In it, Christians are told, in so many words, not to shoot people. Jews, not so much, but they stop reading after the first half. ![]() RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Vas Deferens - 12-01-2015 (12-01-2015, 03:23 PM)Benton Wrote: Anyway, I've stayed out of this thread largely because it's never good to jump to conclusions. But it's sounding more like it's got to do with extremist nature of the pro-life movement. Quote:Dear, 57, told them he has anti-abortion and anti-government views, but that doesn't mean those opinions were his motive for allegedly shooting up the Colorado Springs clinic on Friday, the official said. It's too early to tell, as investigators are still processing evidence. Its going to be interesting to see how the Co Springs D.A. ***** foots around Dear's involvement and attachment to the pro-life movement. That town does not want to paint that group in a bad light. RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Belsnickel - 12-01-2015 (12-01-2015, 03:26 PM)Benton Wrote: Behold! More like 3/4ths. ![]() RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - Benton - 12-01-2015 (12-01-2015, 03:30 PM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Its going to be interesting to see how the Co Springs D.A. ***** foots around Dear's involvement and attachment to the pro-life movement. That town does not want to paint that group in a bad light. The judge, from what I've read, isn't helping anything by sealing everything this early. I get it could taint jury selection (at least, that's why I assume he's doing it), but it just makes people speculate more. But I'm more of a "throw all the information out there" advocate. RE: Christian Terrorists Kill American Civilians and Shoot Police - michaelsean - 12-01-2015 He may have been Christian, but that doesn't mean he did what he did because of Christianity. I would guess that in this country the majority of murderers would identify as Christian, but that doesn't mean they killed for Christianity. |