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RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - Wes Mantooth - 08-31-2016 (08-31-2016, 03:50 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I think he's getting Yoko Ono'd. If you haven't seen Bill Burr's take on Yoko you should give it a listen. Definitely good for a laugh. RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - CJD - 08-31-2016 (08-31-2016, 04:32 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Thinking people can't be racist towards white people is racist. Ugh. Yes, white people can be subjected to individual cases of racism. A black person can kill a white person because they're white. These things have happened, I'm sure. But, in America, there are, literally, no cases of systematic or institutional racism that affect white people. Which is, kind of, the topic of discussion right now. Unless I'm wrong. Have you ever experienced institutional racism as a white person? Because I know I haven't. RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - Rotobeast - 08-31-2016 (08-31-2016, 01:52 PM)masterpanthera_t Wrote: Is it possible you were witnessing entitled OSU athletes?That's possible, but I thought them to be a bit younger. I just couldn't get near the Nikes and wanted to get my daughter out, before she got hit by a shoe and all hell broke loose. I went and brought a pair of Brooks at Dicks, instead. Sent from my SM-S820L using Tapatalk RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - Rotobeast - 08-31-2016 (08-31-2016, 11:33 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Unless I'm wrong. Have you ever experienced institutional racism as a white person? Because I know I haven't. Does being looked at like I should cease to exist, because I walked into a "black" barbershop count ? Sent from my SM-S820L using Tapatalk RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - GMDino - 08-31-2016 (08-31-2016, 11:47 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: Does being looked at like I should cease to exist, because I walked into a "black" barbershop count ? I'd say no more than the time my wife and I stopped at a bar we'd never been to (but was within 10 minutes of our home) to get a six pack and the redneck locals stared us down until we paid and left! ![]() RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - Rotobeast - 08-31-2016 (08-31-2016, 11:50 PM)GMDino Wrote: I'd say no more than the time my wife and I stopped at a bar we'd never been to (but was within 10 minutes of our home) to get a six pack and the redneck locals stared us down until we paid and left! They were staring at your fun-bags. Not your wife's, yours. *banjos play* ![]() I've actually had the opposite experience, at "black" bars. They think I'm crazy, but are social. Now... the industrial lesbian bars...... those chicks tell you to get the hell out. I won them over with slam-dancing though. Sent from my SM-S820L using Tapatalk RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-01-2016 (08-31-2016, 08:57 PM)jason Wrote: There is one similarity though. Ali was thoroughly shit on by many Americans back then for his beliefs. It's softened over the years, but at one time he was FOI, and one of Elijah Mohammad's boys. White America wanted Joe Frazier to beat his ass when he did return to the ring. Ali even rubbed elbows with at least one dictator (Mobutu of Zaire). The shirt Kaepernick was wearing was of Malcolm X meeting Castro. Malcolm X was also Ali's boy. Time has softened our view of him, but your point stands. True.....and those were different times. African Americans were still struggling through the tail end of the civil rights era. Yeah, knew that about the shirt.....he shoulda worn one without a ruthless dictator on it to convey support for X and freedom. I remember the 90s....they make X gear without ol Fidel on it. ![]() RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-01-2016 (08-31-2016, 05:00 PM)xxlt Wrote: My eyes sort of glazed over at some point reading the thread... saw this bolded phrase... wondered what it refers to? No.....society as a whole. Divide and conquer. Colin ain't got shit for money compared to the people I'm talking about. We're talking about the boys with enough coin to buy the "government". RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - yellowxdiscipline - 09-01-2016 It goes to show you that some men will do anything for a woman, even if it means becoming one of the most loathed sports figures in the country. RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - Nately120 - 09-01-2016 (08-31-2016, 09:57 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: If you haven't seen Bill Burr's take on Yoko you should give it a listen. Definitely good for a laugh. That is pretty amusing, but between the whole Yoko thing and singing I am the Walrus and so on I think Lennon was more about getting off on the power he had over the public. Basically, he noticed the way people idolized and hung on his every word so he wrote a song full of gibberish and watched the masses eat it up and babble on and on (for what...50 years and some change now?) about goo goo ga joob and so on. McCartney wasn't as intentional but he wasn't immune to this either. His first post-Beatles solo album was half an album padded out with faceless instrumentals and half-baked nonsense that would make a high school garage band embarrassed to have on a hastily recorded demo tape...but it's Sir Paul so the album is lauded and has been remastered and re-released a zillion times. Don't get me wrong, I love the Beatles but I truly think John Lennon was cynically trolling the hell out of our gullible asses much of the time. Then again, the total shite avant garde albums he made didn't sell too well so perhaps he got a bit humble for a bit there. Still, to get back to politics Lennon's demeanor sort of reminds me of Trump's. You know you have stupidly loyal support, so why not sadistically rub people's faces in it? They deserve it for being such morons. RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - bfine32 - 09-02-2016 It appears CK viewed his actions as disrespectful in retrospect. Last night he joined his teammates on the sidelines and took a knee. I see this as a more respectful approach to resolve his cognitive dissonance. RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - GMDino - 09-02-2016 (09-02-2016, 12:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It appears CK viewed his actions as disrespectful in retrospect. Last night he joined his teammates on the sidelines and took a knee. I see this as a more respectful approach to resolve his cognitive dissonance. So sort of pretending to pray (or assume a praying stance) makes it less disrespectful? We live in a weird world. RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - bfine32 - 09-02-2016 RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - Rotobeast - 09-05-2016 Here's something a young friend of mine wrote, that I think works into the conversation. http://www.sbnation.com/2016/9/5/12795542/colin-kaepernick-heroes-national-anthem-captain-america-nfl Sent from my SM-S820L using Tapatalk RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - Aquapod770 - 09-05-2016 RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-08-2016 (09-02-2016, 12:29 PM)bfine32 Wrote: It appears CK viewed his actions as disrespectful in retrospect. Last night he joined his teammates on the sidelines and took a knee. I see this as a more respectful approach to resolve his cognitive dissonance. Yes, he sat down and had a talk with some folks, apparently, and understood the way it could be taken by soldiers and their families.....kudos to him for acknowledging he could take a stand against the system, but keep people's feelings in mind. I also saw where he was going to donate the proceeds from his jersey sales, and like a million dollars of his salary back into the community. Now, I haven't seen any details as to what community and when, but if sincere (and why wouldn't he be), then this is the gesture I wanted to see from him, and his stance would not ring hollow. If he follows through, good on him. RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - bfine32 - 09-08-2016 (09-08-2016, 02:15 PM)WychesWarrior Wrote: Yes, he sat down and had a talk with some folks, apparently, and understood the way it could be taken by soldiers and their families.....kudos to him for acknowledging he could take a stand against the system, but keep people's feelings in mind. Exactly, CK is looking better and perhaps others will follow. Although, someone here equated the kneeling to prayer; I equate it to the saying in the Military "take a knee". It is said when we want someone to relax and listen quietly. I think the Military vet he spoke with most likely pointed to this. RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - Wyche'sWarrior - 09-08-2016 (09-08-2016, 02:26 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Exactly, CK is looking better and perhaps others will follow. .......yup, just like football. RE: Colin Kapernick benches self for National Anthem - GMDino - 09-29-2016 http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/49ers/2016/09/29/where-did-colin-kaepernick-get-start-activist/91232508/ Quote:Where did Colin Kaepernick get start as an activist? |