(04-29-2018, 07:08 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: the point was not that their were tackles but were they even close to par to another position player that they were looking at.. none of those rookies have started a game in the NFL.. I will still take Fisher over those tackles mentioned to start this season.  I love the Bates picked.. I felt we needed a quality safety over a maybe tackle and that is how the Bengals saw it.. obviously time will tell if they were right.

(04-28-2018, 07:03 PM)yang Wrote: How does Pollack make them better?  Seriously.  

While we are at it we were 30th against the run last year.  30th.   What did we do to improve that?    We never drafted a starting player to address it.  

The LB won’t start and the DT might make a practice squad.   Granted we were horrible at running the ball so we needed to reach for a center but we never drafted an offensive guard or tackle either.   We let people like Connor Williams and Orlando Brown slide by.   I seriously don’t get it.  
Look at the horrible defensive line fodder Tobin has us drafting.   It’s been abysmal.  We got lucky with Geno years ago and whiffed since.

This Yang guy is something else.

(04-30-2018, 02:29 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: This Yang guy is something else.

(04-30-2018, 02:29 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: This Yang guy is something else.

(04-30-2018, 04:01 PM)Benton Wrote: I loved the draft, which is a nice change after I've been pretty critical/disappointed the last couple seasons.

It's kind of funny, though, the majority of folks I know who loved those drafts were lukewarm on this one. And ones like me who liked this one, didn't like those.

I think we addressed some serious areas of need, got both playmakers and depth guys, and we made some smart moves to maximize our picss. Hubbard, Price and Bates have chances to really step up with what I'm assuming will be lots of snaps. I'm hopeful Brown and Malik can develop.

Looking forward to camps and seeing what these guys can do.

(05-01-2018, 02:09 PM)MentalRage Wrote: I know a lot of people were upset that we didn't take Orlando Brown but I think it will be a blessing. Also Crosby is horrific at pass blocking. He wouldn't beat out Fisher.

(05-01-2018, 11:48 AM)yang Wrote: you didn't answer the question and post an ad hominem attack.   Nice. 

(05-01-2018, 04:24 PM)Older Than You Too Wrote: A solid C. Like others have said we needed another O-lineman taken before the 7th, maybe a TE in there (even though this draft wasn't heavy with them). And I'm not sure why we took a Gio clone when we've shown we don't know how to use Gio in the first place.

(04-29-2018, 03:24 PM)Beaker Wrote: It seems to me that ppl who are giving this draft a lower grade are doing so for lack of picking more O linemen. But most ppl also seem to forget that its been known for Months that this draft class was weak for O line.

Also ppl seem to forget that Westerman and Redmond, and to an extent Kent Perkins all played very well last year when they finally got their chance. They were not just coming in late in games and getting mop up garbage experience. They played full games against two teams in DET and BAL who both needed to win to make the playoffs. And these guys played extremely well, and in fact, dominated for periods of time.

I would much rather go with the commodity we know in Westerman, Redmond and Perkins than in reaching for an unknown in a weak O line class. I give the coaches the benefit of knowing what we have vs what was available when we picked. You cannot just draft for the O line, we had holes all over the roster that they have addressed very well with a wide range of picks.

I give this draft a strong B. It did not get an A because we did not have sliders like we got last year at tremendous value like Willis and Lawson. But that's OK, sometimes the picks do not fall like they did last year.

(04-29-2018, 06:21 AM)Weazzel80 Wrote: I give them a C.

I like all the players we got, but I always do. I'm not happy about ignoring the offensive line for yet another year. Glenn and Price are nice, but with how bad our line was last year and with how many picks we had; we should have done more. Last years mistake was trusting what was already on the roster; we are still doing that with the right side of our o-line. We brought in competition at pretty much every spot except Guard and Tackle; two of our biggest needs.

I hope to be proved wrong though.

(05-01-2018, 07:25 PM)cooper Wrote: westerman was one of the better guards in college..when he played late last year he was lights out..Fisher will be fine at RT