(11-06-2020, 06:13 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: That's because farmers aren't having record bankruptcies. They increase all of the time. The country is losing massive amounts of farmers. I guess we just want a walmart type system for farmers. Just a couple of giant farms and no little ones. 

(11-06-2020, 06:21 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I don't know much about farming, but I'm not sure a plutocrat like Trump is the guy to pull for if you are against the notion of huge corporations running the smaller guys out of business.

(11-06-2020, 06:28 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: He has helped a ton of the smaller farmers. Something I remember Democrats groaning about when he was giving farmers bailout money.

(11-06-2020, 06:13 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Yes, it's insane that people pay for their farm. Pay taxes for it and then their kids have to do it all over again. 

(11-06-2020, 06:28 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: He has helped a ton of the smaller farmers. Something I remember Democrats groaning about when he was giving farmers bailout money.

(11-06-2020, 05:52 PM)Au165 Wrote: So apparently the PA GOP is requesting SCOTUS to make sure the late-arriving ballots are segregated until further review. The Secretary of State has already ordered them to be segregated and the GOP even states they have no proof they aren't being segregated at this time but just want to make sure. At what point can we go after the campaign for these frivolous lawsuits and the taxpayer money they waste?

(11-06-2020, 06:33 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't know what you mean.

Why should kids from wealthy families who get multi million dollar farms for free not have to pay taxes, but kids from poor families who have to work out their own money to buy a farm have to pay taxes on that?

Why should children of millionaires get a benefit that children of poor people never do?

(11-06-2020, 02:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Let's try this:

Why do you think he made reference to Storm Front?

Because it's a good source?

(11-06-2020, 03:44 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Is it fair to say that Trump's claims of stolen election is more rebuked by members of his own party than members of Clinton's party rebuked Russian collusion claims?

(11-06-2020, 04:22 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I just asked if it were a fair statement. 

I'll take that as a long know. 

Personally I'm happy to see some people in positions of authority on the Right are calling Trump on his rhetoric

(11-06-2020, 06:52 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Because they're not children of millionaires.

(11-06-2020, 06:52 PM)Brownshoe Wrote:  Because the bank is raising the price of that land when the income from it isn't going up proportionally.

(11-06-2020, 06:52 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Why should people pay taxes multiple times on their own land?

(11-06-2020, 06:52 PM)Brownshoe Wrote:  Most of these people aren't rich, 

(11-06-2020, 04:34 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I'll take time to entertain you; as ignoring or reporting you has proven fruitless.

I have 0 idea why my perhaps using the term anthropology instead of biology as the name of a class I took years ago. It was a science class in which we did studies of forensics. 

Quote:Are you suggesting I did this because I'm racist? 

Quote:As to being "chickenshit"; for real? 

(11-06-2020, 07:34 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Yes they are.  If you own $5 million plus in farm land you are a multimillionaire not matter what your income is.

That is like saying a person who owns a $5 million dollar home but choses to make pottery and only earns $100 a week.  Is he no longer a millionaire just because he has no income?  


Banks don't just make up farm values.  they are based on professional appraisals that use values of land actually SOLD.  That's right, people and companies are actually BUYING farmland and making money off of it.
Like I said before If a person can't make money after getting a $6 million dollar farm for just $4ooK in taxes then he does not deserve to have a farm.

No one pays estate tax on the land multiple times.  They only pay once when they GET IT FOR FREE.
People who don't have millionaire parents and  have to work and earn $5 million to buy a farm have to pay taxes on the $5 million they earn.  So why shouldn't the kids of millionaires have to pay taxes when they get a $5 million farm FOR FREE?

They will have to have assets worth over $5 million before they pay any estate tax.  So they are VERY rich.  If they are "cash poor" that is because they choose to be.  Do you think they should get food stamps if they own a $5 million farm but can't make any money?

(11-06-2020, 05:13 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I stated I'm proud to see the leaders of the GOP step up and call out his fraudulent votes rhetoric and you come back with "Where have they been they last 4 years" and then I'M the one introducing a Red Herring? 

(11-06-2020, 07:51 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: I'll just write this up as you being very ignorant on this topic, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.

(11-06-2020, 06:52 PM)Brownshoe Wrote: Because they're not children of millionaires. You're ignoring that a lot of farmers are going bankrupt and losing their family owned land because they can't turn that big of a profit on it. Because the bank is raising the price of that land when the income from it isn't going up proportionally. It would be different if it was a million dollar business, because that's actually making lots of money.

The biggest mistake you make is that you equate what the BANK says the land is worth to what the family actually has. You think because the land is worth something they automatically have millions of dollars. I would agree if you went by what the profit is from the farm and not what the bank says the farm is worth. That's why I hear "Land rich, and cash poor" all of the time from my farmer friends.

Why should people pay taxes multiple times on their own land? Most of these people aren't rich, and they work extremely hard. There's no reason to hamstring farmers. Maybe if it was a Wall street businessmen I could see your point, but they're FARMERS. American farmers feed America and much of the world. Farmers make MUCH less than what their land is worth a lot of the time. You're just very ignorant on this topic, and this is the exact reason why we need EC. Someone like you who thinks they know the answer of "millionaire" farmers is just pay the taxes to keep their already paid land (and the taxes they already paid). Then in 10-15 years from now you're going to wonder why there's only 2000 farms in America compared to when we had millions.

(11-06-2020, 07:46 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: http://thebengalsboard.com/Thread-Alabama-Court-Awards-Fetus-the-Right-to-Sue?pid=721902#pid721902

Let’s see. You claimed it was anthropology. Then you claimed it was forensics. Then you claimed it wasn’t anthropology. Then you claimed it was biology. Now you claimed it was a generic college level “science” class.

The reason why I remember what you wrote better than you remember what you wrote is because I’m not lying.


I’m willing to listen to an alternative hypothesis as to why you falsely claimed you learned white nationalist propaganda during intro to anthropology/forensics/not_anthropology/biology/science.

Maybe you’re just trolling?  Maybe you’re just lying? Maybe you have a shit memory and can’t remember something simple like the branch of science you took after five attempts, but are somehow able to remember the white nationalist propaganda you learned while there? I don’t know. You tell me.

What I do know is I can remember at least the major brach of science courses I took in college. Why can’t you?


That’s not a rate.

(11-06-2020, 08:47 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: https://www.yahoo.com/news/dan-crenshaw-spars-rep-taylor-205505202.html

Wow. Republicans calling each other losers and liars.