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Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - GMDino - 10-11-2017 http://www.mcall.com/news/local/whitehall/mc-nws-whitehall-daycare-racist-letter-20171006-story.html Quote:Whitehall police are investigating a racially charged letter sent to a township day care center where shaken staff members have been taking extra security precautions since early this week. So some knuckle head? A true racist? Ignore them so they'll go away? Apparently the Trump supporters are already pushing the conspiracy that it was written by one of the day care workers. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - michaelsean - 10-12-2017 (10-11-2017, 11:55 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://www.mcall.com/news/local/whitehall/mc-nws-whitehall-daycare-racist-letter-20171006-story.html Well Tyrone Russell coordinator for racial and ethnic justice called the person a knucklehead so yeah. i get a kick out of too dark. Is that the paper bag test? RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - GMDino - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 09:15 AM)michaelsean Wrote: Well Tyrone Russell coordinator for racial and ethnic justice called the person a knucklehead so yeah. ![]() RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - PhilHos - 10-12-2017 (10-11-2017, 11:55 PM)GMDino Wrote: http://www.mcall.com/news/local/whitehall/mc-nws-whitehall-daycare-racist-letter-20171006-story.html Real question: based on what we currently know, what do you think happens if the owner threw away the letter without telling anyone about it? Maybe less strife and heartache in the community? Maybe people wouldn't feel so unsafe and sad? Don't get me wrong, I hope this was just a stupid trick by a reprehensible person and I hope they find him/her and punish them to the full extent of the law (and maybe go beyond that). But, if this WAS just a stupid trick and not a legitimate threat, didn't the owner just help the author (unintended, of course), by sharing the letters? RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - GMDino - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 02:21 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Real question: based on what we currently know, what do you think happens if the owner threw away the letter without telling anyone about it? Maybe less strife and heartache in the community? Maybe people wouldn't feel so unsafe and sad? I think you have someone so upset that a person that is "too dark" to be working with children (they are "scared") who would think they were being ignored and take further action. I'd rather make it public and hope the coward who wrote it comes out in the light. It also shows how racism isn't really dead. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - michaelsean - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 02:21 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Real question: based on what we currently know, what do you think happens if the owner threw away the letter without telling anyone about it? Maybe less strife and heartache in the community? Maybe people wouldn't feel so unsafe and sad? Is there anything the law can do? RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - PhilHos - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 02:44 PM)GMDino Wrote: I think you have someone so upset that a person that is "too dark" to be working with children (they are "scared") who would think they were being ignored and take further action. What if you involved the police to try to find the sicko, but still kept the letter and its contents under wraps? Wouldn't that be better? You wouldn't have a whole community upset nor have someone on the verge of quitting their livelihood. I'm not saying anyone other than the sicko did anything wrong, but I can't help but wonder if maybe the best thing for all involved would be to notify the police but try to not let word get out about the letter. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - GMDino - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 03:31 PM)PhilHos Wrote: What if you involved the police to try to find the sicko, but still kept the letter and its contents under wraps? Wouldn't that be better? You wouldn't have a whole community upset nor have someone on the verge of quitting their livelihood. Oh hell no. Let the community know that a racist is among them that is so offended that a "too dark" person is working that the daycare center. Hopefully a good public shaming. And I'll feel the same way if this turns out to nothing more than a hoax. Public shame the person behind it. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - Benton - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 02:21 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Real question: based on what we currently know, what do you think happens if the owner threw away the letter without telling anyone about it? Maybe less strife and heartache in the community? Maybe people wouldn't feel so unsafe and sad? I thought we tried the 'ignore racism away' approach? RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - Belsnickel - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 02:21 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Real question: based on what we currently know, what do you think happens if the owner threw away the letter without telling anyone about it? Maybe less strife and heartache in the community? Maybe people wouldn't feel so unsafe and sad? Didn't the letter get sent to the employee, as well? RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - Belsnickel - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 03:48 PM)Benton Wrote: I thought we tried the 'ignore racism away' approach? There are some that still want us to live by that. See the response to what happened in Charlottesville. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - michaelsean - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 03:50 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: There are some that still want us to live by that. See the response to what happened in Charlottesville. You don't ignore racist acts, you ignore racists when all they want is attention. You certainly don't give them advertising they couldn't buy in a million years. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - GMDino - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 04:19 PM)michaelsean Wrote: You don't ignore racist acts, you ignore racists when all they want is attention. You certainly don't give them advertising they couldn't buy in a million years. So what if the racist act is trying to draw attention? Like putting a cross up in the town square or shouting hate speech while you I'd rather point and laugh. Maybe shame them a bit. Draw attention to the problem that is racism. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - michaelsean - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 04:34 PM)GMDino Wrote: So what if the racist act is trying to draw attention? Like putting a cross up in the town square or shouting hate speech while you I gave you the quote from the anti-defamation league guy concerning the cross here in Cincy.. You're playing right into their hands. Everybody can do what they they think is best. I think paying them no attention is best. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - GMDino - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 04:37 PM)michaelsean Wrote: I gave you the quote from the anti-defamation league guy concerning the cross here in Cincy.. You're playing right into their hands. Everybody can do what they they think is best. I think paying them no attention is best. I read the quote. I understand your point of view. I strongly disagree. It's my belief that the worse the person the more people should see it. Sexist, racist, whateverist. Make them own their belief in public instead of the shadows. Some will praise them. They need called out too. Most will condemn them. Probably nothing will change them but I want their names and faces known. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - PhilHos - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 02:56 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Is there anything the law can do? Depends on a lot of variables, but if the letter was threatening in any way, they can at least conduct an investigation, I would think. (10-12-2017, 03:36 PM)GMDino Wrote: Oh hell no. Let the community know that a racist is among them that is so offended that a "too dark" person is working that the daycare center. If they knew the identity of the raicst, then sure. But, if they didn't and his goal was to stir up trouble, aren't you helping him achieve his goal? Why would you want to help a racist spread his racism? (10-12-2017, 03:48 PM)Benton Wrote: I thought we tried the 'ignore racism away' approach? Could've fooled me based on news stories from the past 20 years or so. But, seriously, I think there's a time to ignore it and a time to take action. In the case of the OP, I think it's best to ignore it and not draw attention to one racist (unless they find out hwo it is). (10-12-2017, 03:49 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Didn't the letter get sent to the employee, as well? Sort of. According to the article, there were 2 letters in one envelope. (10-12-2017, 04:19 PM)michaelsean Wrote: You don't ignore racist acts, you ignore racists when all they want is attention. You certainly don't give them advertising they couldn't buy in a million years. That's what I'm getting at. If this guy's goal is to upset people, congratulations, you've helped him achieve his goal. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - GMDino - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 05:46 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Depends on a lot of variables, but if the letter was threatening in any way, they can at least conduct an investigation, I would think. It should not be upsetting that there are racists...it should be infuriating. And large groups should speak out about it until said racist feels insecure enough to move along. Announcing there is a racist in a town is no different that announcing there is one in the US or on this board or in any group or your own family. Call them out. Then run them out on a rail if they identify themselves. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - PhilHos - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 05:58 PM)GMDino Wrote: It should not be upsetting that there are racists...it should be infuriating. Can't disagree with that. (10-12-2017, 05:58 PM)GMDino Wrote: And large groups should speak out about it until said racist feels insecure enough to move along.I don't think it needs to be large groups. I think EVERYONE should speak out saying that racism is unacceptable in today's society. (10-12-2017, 05:58 PM)GMDino Wrote: Announcing there is a racist in a town is no different that announcing there is one in the US or on this board or in any group or your own family. Call them out.If you don't know hwo it is, announcing there's a racist, at best, only serves to have the racist go into hiding. Sure, that may mean no racist incidents for a short time, but you're not eradicating racism. And, more likely, you're going to cause problems, people will start to distrust each other wondering if so-and-so is the racist, etc. there will be anguish and distress, etc. I'm fine with public shaming if you KNOW who the racists are (also assuming that they're actually racist and you're not just calling them that because you disagree with their views on a topic or two), but I don't see the value in announcing there's an unknown racist in our midst, so to speak. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - bfine32 - 10-12-2017 (10-12-2017, 03:48 PM)Benton Wrote: I thought we tried the 'ignore racism away' approach? Anyone that says we should ignore Racism it just wrong. I may not want to give a bunch of inbreds the light they want we they peacefully gather in their little groups. RE: Whitehall police investigating racially charged letter sent to day care - michaelsean - 10-13-2017 (10-12-2017, 05:58 PM)GMDino Wrote: It should not be upsetting that there are racists...it should be infuriating. And large groups should speak out about it until said racist feels insecure enough to move along. Then you’re going to be infuriated forever because there will always be racists. Can’t worry about what people think. You just make sure they have as little influence as possible. |