(08-16-2015, 10:48 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: Here's a powerful read for anyone interested. It goes through the lives of four mothers whose children decided that joining a terrorist organization was a good thing to do. It goes to show that it doesn't really matter where you come from, or the type of people that you have around you, radical Islam can corrupt you pretty easily if you let it in.

Religion is poison to humanity, Islam more than others.

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/mothers-of-isis/?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

(08-16-2015, 10:48 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: Here's a powerful read for anyone interested.  It goes through the lives of four mothers whose children decided that joining a terrorist organization was a good thing to do.  It goes to show that it doesn't really matter where you come from, or the type of people that you have around you, radical Islam can corrupt you pretty easily if you let it in.

Religion is poison to humanity, Islam more than others.

http://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/mothers-of-isis/?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000063

(08-17-2015, 04:53 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: I beg to differ....
Weak minds and perversion of religion is the issue.
Religion is the basis for morality and was paramount in culling the majority of barbarism in the world.

I understand how you formed your opinion, things are ugly out there.
However, I'm sure you understand that religion is being used as a tool for control, as it has been forever.
Whether it is a tool for good or evil is up to whether it is a true believer or iconoclast wielding it.

(08-17-2015, 04:53 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: I beg to differ....
Weak minds and perversion of religion is the issue.
Religion is the basis for morality and was paramount in culling the majority of barbarism in the world.

(08-17-2015, 09:39 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: The basis of morality lies in society, not religion. You can find evidence of morality, or at least the roots of it, within chimpanzee socieites. Religion has served many roles in our cultures around the world, and one of those has been to codify morality. But morality existed before religion.

(08-17-2015, 10:05 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: Religion undoubtedly has had an effect on human morality, but to say that it's the only factor in it is just wrong.  If you read religious texts though, they're filled with just as many negative things as positive things regarding morality.

If it were the only factor in morality, you would expect for more religious people to be more moral as a whole (which isn't the case), and for a far smaller amount of horrible things attributed to religion.

(08-17-2015, 04:53 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: I beg to differ....
Weak minds and perversion of religion is the issue.
Religion is the basis for morality and was paramount in culling the majority of barbarism in the world.

(08-18-2015, 12:28 AM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: I wonder how many people have been murdered in the name of science?

Probably just as many as has been murdered in the name of religion. Before you say "Nuh uh" just think how many Josef Mengele had murdered or the United States government looking for whatever.

Oh wait, this is a "Bash Religion" thread just like all the others.

Lol, you guys are so predictable.

(08-18-2015, 09:21 AM)GMDino Wrote: Oh look, a martyr who thinks discussing religion is "bashing" it.

So predictable.

Quote:And religion has been the basis for some serious barbarism throughout history.

Quote:Religion separates people.

Quote:Religion is based upon control and fear

Quote:Nothing is more divisive than religion.

The world would be a better place without it.

Quote: Religion is poison to humanity, Islam more than others.

(08-18-2015, 12:28 AM)Nebuchadnezzar Wrote: I wonder how many people have been murdered in the name of science?

Probably just as many as has been murdered in the name of religion. Before you say "Nuh uh" just think how many Josef Mengele had murdered or the United States government looking for whatever.

Oh wait, this is a "Bash Religion" thread just like all the others.

Lol, you guys are so predictable.

(08-18-2015, 11:37 AM)Benton Wrote:

(08-17-2015, 04:53 PM)Rotobeast Wrote: I beg to differ....
Weak minds and perversion of religion is the issue.
Religion is the basis for morality and was paramount in culling the majority of barbarism in the world.

I understand how you formed your opinion, things are ugly out there.
However, I'm sure you understand that religion is being used as a tool for control, as it has been forever.
Whether it is a tool for good or evil is up to whether it is a true believer or iconoclast wielding it.

(08-17-2015, 09:01 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Religion is one basis for morality, but not the only one. I'm agnostic. There may be a divine creator, I don't know.  I haven't ruled it out as a possibility. I try to do the right thing because it is the right thing to do.  Not because of a reward or punishment in a potential afterlife.

(08-17-2015, 09:39 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: The basis of morality lies in society, not religion. You can find evidence of morality, or at least the roots of it, within chimpanzee socieites. Religion has served many roles in our cultures around the world, and one of those has been to codify morality. But morality existed before religion.

(08-17-2015, 10:05 PM)Johnny Cupcakes Wrote: Religion undoubtedly has had an effect on human morality, but to say that it's the only factor in it is just wrong.  If you read religious texts though, they're filled with just as many negative things as positive things regarding morality.

If it were the only factor in morality, you would expect for more religious people to be more moral as a whole (which isn't the case), and for a far smaller amount of horrible things attributed to religion.

(08-17-2015, 10:11 PM)jakefromstatefarm Wrote: I agree with this. 

I'm not a religious guy, FWIW.  I still consider myself to be a moral person.  

(08-17-2015, 09:01 PM)oncemoreuntothejimbreech Wrote: Religion is one basis for morality, but not the only one. I'm agnostic. There may be a divine creator, I don't know.  I haven't ruled it out as a possibility. I try to do the right thing because it is the right thing to do.  Not because of a reward or punishment in a potential afterlife.

(08-18-2015, 11:43 AM)GMDino Wrote: Everything you quoted came from one person and one post.

Here are some of the others.







That's about as reasonable a discussion as you can have about religion around here.  

(08-18-2015, 12:14 PM)Benton Wrote: You should probably recount that. It's easily twice as many people.

(08-18-2015, 12:18 PM)GMDino Wrote: You are correct.  2 people.

Clearly its bashing.

(08-18-2015, 12:21 PM)Benton Wrote: One person is a hater.

Two people are a mob.