(11-12-2018, 07:14 AM)zygrot24 Wrote: If Marvin was a real coach, these past few weeks he would have told Austin to hold the clipboard and marvin should have ran the defense. It could of helped, maybe it wouldn't. But it would send a message to Austin and Mike Brown. But again, Marvin isn't a real coach. Really hard pressed to think of a positive, a good thing marvin has going for him.  I'm stumped.  And don't say he can draft well or he has an eye for talent. We are seeing that narrative go down the pisser.

Can we at least agree that Mike Brown doesn't care to ever win a superbowl. Mikey seriously doesn't care if we win 15 games or 1. So frustrated. At this point, with brown showing us he doesn't care to win,  he should either sell the team or relocate it. The Bengals won't ever be a good team with Mike Brown in ohio

(11-12-2018, 07:19 AM)zygrot24 Wrote: “I don’t have time to be frustrated, I have to coach”. -Marvin Lewis at half time today vs saints

(11-12-2018, 07:46 AM)zygrot24 Wrote: In  my opinion , judging by body language,  and lack of effort,  the players don't want to play for Marvin. He has lost every player.

(11-12-2018, 07:19 AM)zygrot24 Wrote: “I don’t have time to be frustrated, I have to coach”. -Marvin Lewis at half time today vs saints

(11-12-2018, 10:04 AM)Fan_in_Kettering Wrote: This is the best answer Marvin Lewis has ever given to a reporter since 2003. It’s brutally honest and totally unfiltered. Pam Oliver was completely taken by surprise — and she’s an excellent reporter.

(11-12-2018, 07:14 AM)zygrot24 Wrote: But again, Marvin isn't a real coach. Really hard pressed to think of a positive, a good thing marvin has going for him.  I'm stumped. 

(11-12-2018, 12:20 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'm not a huge Marvin fan, but asking him to be the HC and a pseudo-GM and the DC seems like a bit of a cheap-o insult, even by Mike Brown standards.

(11-12-2018, 08:12 PM)Benton Wrote: I assumed it was more Marvin trying to save his job.

Mike: "The team stinks. you told me if I gave you total control and a couple decades, you could make it a winner."
Marvin: "It's Frazier's fault."
Mike: "Ok. Well... hey, that's..."
Marvin: "Austin." [giggle] "I meant Austin."
Mike: "Oh. Yeah, I guess. Well, uh, I guess sack him and next year?"
Marvin: [giggle] "Yup."

(11-12-2018, 10:20 AM)kevin Wrote: In all fairness to Marvin Lewis he took over maybe the worst NFL franchise ever.  He turned them around for 7 play-off seasons.  If Palmer hadn't been injured in 2005, or Dalton in 2015, who knows. Probably play-off wins.

In all honesty, it's time for Marvin Lewis to go.

The problem is still Mike Brown and Family.  Most good head coaches didn't want to come here before Lewis, and will not want to come here now.

Good coaches like an Andy Reid and others demand more team control and Mike Brown just isn't going to do that.

When we had Zimmer and Gruden, Fans saw then that one of them should have moved up to Head Coach. It is too late now.

If Mike Brown hires from within, I would certainly want Lazor over Austin.  I like the things Lazor is doing on offense more than Austin on defense.

As to why doesn't Marvin take over the Defense ???   What if this is the Marvin Defense ???  Austin has coached defense on 3 Super Bowl teams. Now at Cincy his D stinks.  What if this D has been Marvin Lewis more than Austin ?   You can not blame Austin for the awful linebackers and defensive backs before 2018 on team.   That said, Lewis and Austin both need to go because it's one or the other or both.

Also on D, Bengals were better with Hall, Nelson, Maualuga, IIoka.  They didn't find quality players to replace them, and it shows. Well, as we lose Zimmer coached players, the D gets worse and worse.

(11-12-2018, 07:46 AM)zygrot24 Wrote: “You can’t lose sight of where we are. This hurts. It hurts everybody. We have to coach better and play better,” same old song and dance. Everyone who was OK with keeping this loser as the Bengals head coach, should have to apologize  for being so stupid..

In  my opinion , judging by body language,  and lack of effort,  the players don't want to play for Marvin. He has lost every player.

(11-13-2018, 01:50 AM)RASCAL Wrote: If our core players want to win more, they will have to go to other teams to do it!!! I've said this for many years!