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RE: Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals - pally - 04-09-2024 (04-09-2024, 01:09 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Your thinking only of yourself and not the child. it is a false sense of security if you believe you have any control over who your child is in the bathroom with and that is without even taking trans people into the euation RE: Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals - Mike M (the other one) - 04-09-2024 (04-09-2024, 02:05 PM)pally Wrote: it is a false sense of security if you believe you have any control over who your child is in the bathroom with and that is without even taking trans people into the euation Perfect example as to why Single use bath room is a better option. Security AND Privacy restored for everyone. RE: Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals - Belsnickel - 04-09-2024 (04-09-2024, 01:55 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Because it's not. As I stated, if it were only adults, most people wouldn't care. But children are a different story. Plus, I think you are putting too much trust that your scenario is full proof and that people won't be people and do bad things. I know that sounds like a weak explanation, but I don't know any better way at the moment to explain without it sounding offensive. I know most people wouldn't care if it were just about adults, or at least there would be less ammunition for them to work with. However, I reject the premise that it being about children actually does create a greater problem. Predators are going to do predator things and allowing people to use the bathroom that aligns with their gender is not going to increase the risks. When we have seen people try to take advantage of those policies they have been called out for it, and rightfully so. (04-09-2024, 01:55 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: I might not have YOUR credentials, but i do have the ability to think ahead. It's a requirement for my job and is very much in line with my nature anyways. Oh, you mistake me for someone who disagree with unisex bathrooms being the solution. I am currently working on a team to implement such an infrastructure at a Scout camp. I just also know that it isn't an inexpensive proposition. There will be special interest groups lobbying against government spending on the efforts when it comes to updating public property. Say something was passed similar to the ADA which required public serving businesses to implement this in their accommodations there would be a fervent lobby against it on the premise of it being additional regulations on businesses and so forth. The largest special interest group in this country is the Chamber of Commerce. Knowing what I know about their positions and how they approach legislation I would not see them being in favor of these actions. I also don't foresee the GOP position being one of embracing this sort of thing. So with all of that, the political feasibility of such a position just isn't there. Maybe in a few years, but there are a lot of things that would have to change for that. Maybe it will be lawsuits, but right now with the current SCOTUS makeup those against these moves will have an advantage judicially as well. RE: Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals - Belsnickel - 04-09-2024 (04-09-2024, 02:10 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Perfect example as to why Single use bath room is a better option. Pfft. Stalls in American public restrooms left much to be desired on both of those points. RE: Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals - HarleyDog - 04-09-2024 (04-09-2024, 03:49 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I know most people wouldn't care if it were just about adults, or at least there would be less ammunition for them to work with. However, I reject the premise that it being about children actually does create a greater problem. Predators are going to do predator things and allowing people to use the bathroom that aligns with their gender is not going to increase the risks. When we have seen people try to take advantage of those policies they have been called out for it, and rightfully so. Thank you for the well-detailed response. I won't lie. When I was reading it I was thinking, Nah, I think bipartisanly we could work this out. But then I got towards the last sentence and heard Hannity in my head screaming "The deceiving Dems are wanting to take your tax dollars to build LGBTQ bathroom. Seriously folks, you can't make this stuff up." I would like to hope it would be well received because as we discussed earlier, it meets a need and gives both parties a huge solution to a smaller problem which both could campaign on. Yet, with the amount of hatred towards one another, it's possible this thing would blow up. RE: Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals - Belsnickel - 04-09-2024 (04-09-2024, 04:56 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Thank you for the well-detailed response. I won't lie. When I was reading it I was thinking, Nah, I think bipartisanly we could work this out. But then I got towards the last sentence and heard Hannity in my head screaming "The deceiving Dems are wanting to take your tax dollars to build LGBTQ bathroom. Seriously folks, you can't make this stuff up." Yeah, right now the political environment is just far too volatile for it. Even before the recent trends in partisan attitudes this would've been a hard sell for bipartisanship, but as we go on we see fewer and fewer things getting that sort of support. Things that used to be obvious yes votes in both chambers have become party-line or nearly party-line votes. It is a sad state of affairs. RE: Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals - Mike M (the other one) - 04-10-2024 (04-09-2024, 03:49 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: I know most people wouldn't care if it were just about adults, or at least there would be less ammunition for them to work with. However, I reject the premise that it being about children actually does create a greater problem. Predators are going to do predator things and allowing people to use the bathroom that aligns with their gender is not going to increase the risks. When we have seen people try to take advantage of those policies they have been called out for it, and rightfully so. Weird, didn't see your response. Anyways, i know you aren't against it, just wondered why you were against what i was proposing. That's always possible and with the current proposal if it becomes a law then same will happen. But my understanding is that if a business upgrades or renovates a % of all is already a tax write-off so there wouldn't be anything that wasn't already in place other than the Fed taking the tax hit in 1-2 years vs spread out. And you know with social media so big these days, someone would give good PR to a businesses for that and any new business that starts from the ground up would also build accordingly. It's very possible the COC would try to put up a fight, but i think businesses would jump at it and make it moot. Either path you take the COC and certain politicians will fight it. As weird as it sounds, just seems like an overall win-win. There is always people that don't like change and some that would use politics. RE: Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals - GMDino - 04-21-2024 oopsie. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-attorney-general-letitia-james-opposes-trump-bond-in-civil-fraud-case/ Quote:New York Attorney General Letitia James opposes company holding Trump's $175 million bond in civil fraud case RE: Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-22-2024 https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-175-million-bond-goes-before-judge-new-york-ags-concerns-2024-04-22/ Bond remains in place. RE: Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals - GMDino - 04-22-2024 (04-22-2024, 04:38 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-175-million-bond-goes-before-judge-new-york-ags-concerns-2024-04-22/ With the additional safeguards. Quote:Trump accepts new restrictions on $175 million bond in New York civil fraud case RE: Bond slashed to 175 million while Trump appeals - Luvnit2 - 04-23-2024 (04-21-2024, 02:07 PM)GMDino Wrote: oopsie. One more overreach by James. She loses and eventually she will lose on appeal. I really hope when they lose, Trump sues NY for hundreds of billions of dollars and wins. oopsie, you wishes denied. |