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Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - StLucieBengal - 06-11-2016 http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/11/child-bride-legally-married-sharia-law-german-judge-rules/ 20 year old Muslim man marriage to his 14 year old cousin is upheld under sharia law. Disgusting in so many ways. Quote: Child Bride Legally Married Under Sharia Law, German Judge Rules RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - Sovereign Nation - 06-11-2016 (06-11-2016, 10:04 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/11/child-bride-legally-married-sharia-law-german-judge-rules/ I agree that child brides are disgusting. It is apart of their culture though. The problem is that they are supposedly trying to flee their culture and go to a place that they will have more freedoms, yet for some reason they want to bring their culture with them and change the culture of Germany to be the same as the one they left. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - Belsnickel - 06-11-2016 Truthfully, this is a very tough situation. Our morality says it is wrong, but they are coming and seeking asylum as a married couple from a culture that allows for it. How do you say to them that their marriage, a legal and religious marriage, is no longer valid? That's something any country would be hesitant to get into. Probably why this individual case isn't really news. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - GMDino - 06-11-2016 (06-11-2016, 10:04 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/11/child-bride-legally-married-sharia-law-german-judge-rules/ So now you are against religious freedom? Color me stunned. (06-11-2016, 10:19 PM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: I agree that child brides are disgusting. It is apart of their culture though. The problem is that they are supposedly trying to flee their culture and go to a place that they will have more freedoms, yet for some reason they want to bring their culture with them and change the culture of Germany to be the same as the one they left. If only we could enforce just one culture.... RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - Benton - 06-11-2016 http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10449830/ns/us_news-life/t/woman-who-married-teen-prefers-older-men/ The horror of those Germans. And that was the first one that came up. Although I was surprised a person of any age could marry an adult without parental consent in Georgia. But, hey, at least they're not Muslim. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - Sovereign Nation - 06-12-2016 (06-11-2016, 10:42 PM)GMDino Wrote: So now you are against religious freedom? Color me stunned. That is what I don't want. Seriously. I have enjoyed my time in Korea, Germany, France, Italy, Turkey, Iraq and Afghanistan. I have very fond memories in each and everyone of these locations. However, while I enjoy their cultures and customs, I also enjoy American customs and American culture and wouldn't want to change our culture. Let the Middle Eastern countries have their culture, but they need to have their culture in their countries. Not bring their culture into ours. Remember kid, colonialism is bad... at lest that is how the British are portrayed in expanding their empire. Or is this one of those "We can do this, but you can't!" Like certain words? RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - Sovereign Nation - 06-12-2016 (06-11-2016, 10:36 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Truthfully, this is a very tough situation. Our morality says it is wrong, but they are coming and seeking asylum as a married couple from a culture that allows for it. How do you say to them that their marriage, a legal and religious marriage, is no longer valid? That's something any country would be hesitant to get into. Probably why this individual case isn't really news. This is what I was getting at. They are supposedly fleeing this culture, yet at every chance they get they try to implement that culture in countries where these beliefs are frowned upon. Just like the Mexican immigrants that come over here wanting to embrace the "riches" that the United States have but then wave the Mexican flag while desecrating the Flag of the United States. If they are so proud of Mexico so much then they should stay in Mexico. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - StLucieBengal - 06-12-2016 (06-11-2016, 10:36 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: Truthfully, this is a very tough situation. Our morality says it is wrong, but they are coming and seeking asylum as a married couple from a culture that allows for it. How do you say to them that their marriage, a legal and religious marriage, is no longer valid? That's something any country would be hesitant to get into. Probably why this individual case isn't really news. I agree with you. Which is exactly why I think they shouldn't be Coming west for asylum. The cultures are too different. They can easily go to places that allow and promote you to marry your underage cousins. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - StLucieBengal - 06-12-2016 (06-11-2016, 11:05 PM)Benton Wrote: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10449830/ns/us_news-life/t/woman-who-married-teen-prefers-older-men/ Ah the old let's show the Muslims actions aren't disgusting.... By showing the same disgusting action by a non muslim. Guess what ... They are both disgusting. Just because you can go to these our places and marry a child doesn't mean you should bring that back to the west and expect anyone to accept it and the courts to cosign. Deport these people..... They are only migrants. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - Belsnickel - 06-12-2016 (06-12-2016, 12:32 AM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: This is what I was getting at. They are supposedly fleeing this culture, yet at every chance they get they try to implement that culture in countries where these beliefs are frowned upon. (06-12-2016, 12:51 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I agree with you. Which is exactly why I think they shouldn't be Coming west for asylum. The cultures are too different. They can easily go to places that allow and promote you to marry your underage cousins. I can agree with you if they were attempting to get married in Germany. But that is not the case here. They aren't fleeing their culture, they are fleeing violence. They are in a new land and their culture is their identity. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - bfine32 - 06-12-2016 (06-11-2016, 11:05 PM)Benton Wrote: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10449830/ns/us_news-life/t/woman-who-married-teen-prefers-older-men/ Fallacy: Two Wrongs Make a Right Description of Two Wrongs Make a Right Two Wrongs Make a Right is a fallacy in which a person "justifies" an action against a person by asserting that the person would do the same thing to him/her, when the action is not necessary to prevent B from doing X to A. This fallacy has the following pattern of "reasoning":
It should be noted that it can be the case that it is not wrong for A to do X to B if X is done to prevent B from doing X to A or if X is done in justified retribution. For example, if Sally is running in the park and Biff tries to attack her, Sally would eb jsutified in attacking Biff to defend herself. As another example, if country A is planning to invade country B in order to enslave the people, then country B would be justified in launching a pre-emptive strike to prevent the invasion. Examples of Two Wrongs Make a Right
RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - GMDino - 06-12-2016 (06-12-2016, 12:51 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I agree with you. Which is exactly why I think they shouldn't be Coming west for asylum. The cultures are too different. They can easily go to places that allow and promote you to marry your underage cousins. Like West Virginia? All seriousness aside would like to see just an all white / Christian culture in America? Seriously. AN America where foreigners are kept out because of the culture and race. Serious answers only please. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - StLucieBengal - 06-12-2016 (06-12-2016, 07:26 AM)Belsnickel Wrote: I can agree with you if they were attempting to get married in Germany. But that is not the case here. They aren't fleeing their culture, they are fleeing violence. They are in a new land and their culture is their identity. They are going to Germany. Being a German is their identity. They choose to go there so you also choose to live as a German would.... Which isn't taking child brides. This should be an automatic deport. They can flee to another country where it's normal to marry children. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - StLucieBengal - 06-12-2016 (06-12-2016, 10:17 AM)GMDino Wrote: Like West Virginia? I will settle for a culture where marrying/raping children is disgusting and vile. What hilarious is how much you defend thee people just because they aren't white. You seem to care more about skin tone than their actual actions. They are child rapists. Although I guess this shouldn't surprise me... You all defended pedos and their rights to be disgusting perverts.... Why not let Muslims marry 10 year olds. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - GMDino - 06-12-2016 (06-12-2016, 11:58 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: I will settle for a culture where marrying/raping children is disgusting and vile. Then then one with no religion? RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - StLucieBengal - 06-12-2016 (06-12-2016, 12:02 PM)GMDino Wrote: Then then one with no religion? yes let's punish everyone because we have certain groups involved in rampant child rapes and pedophilia. How about start giving these people harsh sentences for raping children. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - GMDino - 06-12-2016 (06-12-2016, 12:06 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: yes let's punish everyone because we have certain groups involved in rampant child rapes and pedophilia. We don't even give harsh sentences for raping adults. But how would the elimination of religion be punishing everyone? btw, I started a new thread about this if you'd rather discuss it there. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - StLucieBengal - 06-12-2016 (06-12-2016, 12:08 PM)GMDino Wrote: We don't even give harsh sentences for raping adults. Adult rape is not even in the same ballpark as child rape. The fact you think it's comparable is hilarious RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - GMDino - 06-12-2016 (06-12-2016, 12:12 PM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Adult rape is not even in the same ballpark as child rape. The fact you think it's comparable is hilarious Oh, really? So rape has different levels of evil? Do tell. RE: Oh Germany.... You're doing it wrong - Benton - 06-12-2016 (06-12-2016, 12:57 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: Ah the old let's show the Muslims actions aren't disgusting.... By showing the same disgusting action by a non muslim.Deport people from Georgia? Just moving everyone out of Atlanta will cost billions. And what about Arkansas or Mississippi? And aren't those states in the west? Oh my heavens, if little rock has fallen, then nowhere is safe. |