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Ministry of Truth?
(05-11-2022, 02:18 PM)michaelsean Wrote: I don't mind being used as a springboard.  I think it would benefit everyone to hear about things in your country.  I have to imagine it's in the normal range as far as European countries go so it would be a good education for us all. Or at least the ones of us who aren't all that knowledgeable about European politics.  

Yeah I don't think it would benefit all that much. My country is more weird than normal, and so is our specific political landscape. In the end, I'd rather people don't know all that much about it, it's a bit embarrassing really. A better role model to study, imho, would be Germany.

The main thing I'd say though is that a parliamentary system with multiple parties, where every vote actually counts for the intended party, is preferrable. For one, we get the radicals in the radical party, leaving other parties somewhat alone. Also, voters actually feel that they can vote close to their beliefs and that their vote has meaning. Debates are more nuanced, more pluralistic. Reaching across aisles, at least to another partner, is usually necessary to govern (which some see as a bad thing, I don't). Also, while our parties tolerate donations to an extent I find too copious, what American parties and politicians have to do in that regard is totally unfathomable. So yeah, no open bribary might be something America could learn too. The ranked voting with 4% hurdle might also be something you'd like, you get seats in parliament if 4% of the voters countrywide vote for you, wouldn't that be nice. You could have libertarians in Congress, or even a more reasonable party. Hey, this could turn into a too long response after all. I'd better stop.
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Ministry of Truth? - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 04-29-2022, 04:16 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - NATI BENGALS - 04-29-2022, 04:23 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - BigPapaKain - 04-29-2022, 04:44 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - NATI BENGALS - 04-29-2022, 05:06 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - NATI BENGALS - 04-29-2022, 05:53 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - NATI BENGALS - 04-29-2022, 06:20 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - NATI BENGALS - 04-29-2022, 06:30 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - BigPapaKain - 04-29-2022, 07:25 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - NATI BENGALS - 04-29-2022, 07:51 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - BigPapaKain - 04-29-2022, 08:49 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - NATI BENGALS - 04-29-2022, 06:38 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - NATI BENGALS - 04-29-2022, 07:16 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - NATI BENGALS - 04-29-2022, 08:13 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - BigPapaKain - 04-29-2022, 08:52 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-01-2022, 07:04 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - StoneTheCrow - 05-01-2022, 08:39 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - StoneTheCrow - 04-29-2022, 07:51 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - treee - 04-29-2022, 07:50 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - treee - 04-29-2022, 08:38 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - treee - 04-29-2022, 09:14 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - treee - 04-30-2022, 12:30 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - CJD - 04-30-2022, 09:12 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Sled21 - 05-01-2022, 08:39 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - StoneTheCrow - 05-01-2022, 08:49 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-01-2022, 10:09 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Sled21 - 05-02-2022, 05:48 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - basballguy - 05-02-2022, 06:19 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - NATI BENGALS - 05-02-2022, 06:49 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-02-2022, 10:37 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Sled21 - 05-03-2022, 09:05 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - hollodero - 05-03-2022, 09:45 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - CKwi88 - 05-03-2022, 10:52 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-03-2022, 10:55 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Sled21 - 05-03-2022, 12:11 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-03-2022, 02:09 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - StrictlyBiz - 05-07-2022, 05:38 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Sled21 - 05-03-2022, 12:06 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-04-2022, 04:34 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - hollodero - 05-05-2022, 05:48 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-08-2022, 04:29 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - hollodero - 05-09-2022, 10:45 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-09-2022, 11:19 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - hollodero - 05-09-2022, 12:42 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - StrictlyBiz - 05-09-2022, 01:19 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-09-2022, 07:27 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - hollodero - 05-10-2022, 10:28 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-10-2022, 08:20 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - hollodero - 05-11-2022, 01:46 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-11-2022, 02:18 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - hollodero - 05-11-2022, 02:53 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-11-2022, 04:09 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - hollodero - 05-11-2022, 05:05 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-11-2022, 05:41 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - hollodero - 05-11-2022, 06:02 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-11-2022, 07:49 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-10-2022, 02:10 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-10-2022, 08:25 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-11-2022, 09:07 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-11-2022, 09:28 AM
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RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-11-2022, 12:58 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-11-2022, 01:08 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-23-2022, 12:08 PM
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RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-02-2022, 10:56 PM
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RE: Ministry of Truth? - StrictlyBiz - 05-07-2022, 05:30 AM
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RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-08-2022, 10:40 PM
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RE: Ministry of Truth? - StrictlyBiz - 05-10-2022, 10:59 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-11-2022, 09:20 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - StoneTheCrow - 05-11-2022, 01:16 PM
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RE: Ministry of Truth? - NATI BENGALS - 05-11-2022, 10:17 PM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - Dill - 05-12-2022, 10:10 AM
RE: Ministry of Truth? - michaelsean - 05-12-2022, 11:37 AM
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