Ministry of Truth?

[hollodero]

(05-14-2022, 04:37 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: I agree this could go back and forth for days. But I will point out that you're talking about the same CNN that was supporting, advising, and protecting Andrew Cuomo for years. 

Oh sure, through his brother alone CNN sure had an unhealthy closeness to Cuomo. To be fair, they wouldn't know about his history of harassment. And when they figured how big a role his brother had in Cuomo's doing, he got ousted.
When it became clear that Hannity has an unhealthy closeness to Trump, includigng sharing the same sleazy lawyer, however... well, whatever. That's not too much of a defense and doesn't intend to be. I do not like CNN.

(05-14-2022, 04:37 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: Also, there is this....

Yep, I remember, they sure deserve credit for that. It's often a story of differences within the network. I had a high opinion of Chris Wallace, for example, who no one but Trump mistook for a liberal, but who seemed pretty fair minded, while still being a conservative host on FOX.
On the other side, SFF rightfully reminded me of Joy Reid, and I have a similar opinion than him on her, she's close to the worst FOX offenders to me as well. Not that I know her too well, but from what I heard it seems true.
(I did not know about Tiffany Cross, btw, just if SFF reads this response. I am but a foreigner, after all.)

(05-14-2022, 04:37 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: That's not quite exactly what was argued, nor did Carlson himself offer that defense. If you dig into it, it's a lot more nuanced than what is being spread around......that "no serious person could ever mistake what he does with truthful news"
Midway on page 5
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/7216968/9-24-20-McDougal-v-Fox-Opinion.pdf

Yeah, well, I probably oversimplified that one a bit. Mr. Carlson’s statements “cannot reasonably be interpreted as facts” is still devastating, imho. There isn't much context to change that, it's not like Tucker clearly made a joke or anything. He said McDougal tried to criminally extort Donald Trump, no ninja emoji.
I have to admit though there would have been better points for me to make than this one. It's just so fitting really.

(05-14-2022, 04:37 PM)StrictlyBiz Wrote: I'd rather not defend Tucker because frankly, I don't like him and his phony and contrived laugh, but I am interested in knowing the truth.

That one I totally get. I don't want to defend CNN either.
And if you hadn't compared Maddow to FOX, I probably would not even have interjected. But that one is just too hard to swallow for me.