05-17-2022, 11:32 PM
(05-17-2022, 04:46 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Which is why it's hard to value him. He occasionally plays like a Top 5 safety. Most of the time he's maybe a Top 15-20 Safety.
Paying him at Top 5 level is overpaying. But, it's probably what he wants.
True. The thing is he isn't a top 5 Safety at all consistently and that is what he needs to be for top 5 money.
Get much better at tackling and his play last year early in the season was bad, wasn't even decent.
(05-17-2022, 04:48 PM)Daddy-O Wrote: Bates should get out in front of this.
He should be full aware of how this eventually plays out with the Bengals. They will not change their position.
He is not going to sit, period. If he does he's an absolute fool to turn down that kind of money for a position that the league no longer places a high value on. So why drag your name through the mud with the fanbase over the next 6 months? What is he going to gain, other than be seen as a malcontent on a team where all they talk about is the locker room. Or worse, a malcontent that the rest of the league sees not worthy of a long term deal also. Either way, it doesn't end well.
And regardless of whether or not the locker room has his back it adds drama to the locker room, new rookies, etc. The media and fans will be all over it. Just sign a team friendly deal to make it go away.
Agreed Daddy-O. This type of shit might work with the Browns but it isn't working with the Bengals especially the way they
drafted for insurance in case of Bates ******* agent. Dax Hill is already a much better tackler and has similar range and is very
smart and smooth to boot. It is in Bates best interest to play out the tag or even take a top 15 Safety salary for a couple years.
Sure isn't in his best interest to do what his agent is doing in letting this out there. The Bengals do not flinch and do not get
pressured, they get offended and move on and sometimes to their own demise. Not this time though, the Bengals are in the
best position, not Bates agent or even Bates if he listens to him.
(05-17-2022, 04:52 PM)jj22 Wrote: Bates may come and play out of his mind headed into a contract year. But the more likely and history has shown, he'll come in in a funk and let it bother him all year. Hopefully the FO sees this and gives him the Dunlap treatment. Got to reset the standards for the new generation as far as what they will and will not put up with.
Yes, we all saw how he played when he didn't get a contract before the season started and he even said it was in his head.
I think it is best for all involved to move on after this BS from his agent. Dude is messing with Jessie. Feel sorry for him as he is a
player I wanted us to draft before we drafted him and he is a great person. Damn agents really screw with these good young men.
Sucks.
(05-17-2022, 06:39 PM)pulses Wrote: Dax could be a top 5 safety in 3 years IMO.
Maybe in 2, wouldn't surprise me. Dude is as pro ready as I have seen a Safety honestly.
