Ministry of Truth?

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(05-18-2022, 01:17 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: Oh, most definitely.  There's certainly a difference in degree, and I don't know any sane person who'd argue against that.

Interesting. I seem to know quite some otherwise sane people who would vigorously argue against that, making indeed a both sides argument. Throwing in some "Hillary did not concede right away" and declare democrats (and anyone) who complain about the insurrection attempts hypocritical.

(05-18-2022, 01:17 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: That being said, questioning the integrity of elections has been labeled a "threat to our democracy".  Consequently it is more than fair to call out the exact same behavior, albeit to a lesser degree, in Abrams.

I don't think that's precise. I'd say questioning the election process is to an extent fair, questioning the integrity of an election without any shred of evidence (and believing that many judges and even Republicans are in on it) is a threat to democracy. It addresses people just not liking the result and inciting them into doing something threatening to democracy about it.
I am most certainly not defending Abrams, who is smart enough to label her own critizism differently. The way she did it, I can see why it's not acceptable. That being said, she explained what she meant and agree or not, her points are not completely meritless or just made up. Never mind the vast differences that followed the respective sayings, a point not even worth making.

(05-18-2022, 01:17 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: There's a world of difference between hitting someone in the head with a bat and kicking them in the groin.  They're both a battery, just of varying degrees, and neither of them is acceptable.  I don't ignore bad behavior in one person and then focus on it in another.  Of course there are some, including posters here, who will immediately label this a "both sides do it" argument and then trot out a long winded and overly verbose argument as to why the greater sin overshadows the lesser to a degree that it's not even worthy of consideration.  This, of course, only fuels further division and labels the person making the argument a partisan actor.  

I get that. I just feel you're helping others, that have quite a different take than yours, to muddy the waters; like mentioned above. I'd claim you see a part of that in the first affirmative reaction you got here. Meaning the attempt of declaring Democrats worked up about the insurrection attempts as merely making up rules they themselves do not follow, hence it's one of these nothingburgers and political games dismissable on its face. Which is not a very nuanced point, to say the least.