House Speaker Ongoing Melodrama

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(10-31-2023, 03:54 PM)pally Wrote: that's why I don't cling to party names as a mantra.  It is far better to understand the political philosophy of each party at the time period being talked about.

If we're going to pretend nothing in politics has changed since 1860, take a look at the states Lincoln won.  He won Commiefornia and Washington state, and the crime riddled liberal hellholes of NY and Illinois while the democrats (there were two of them and one who wanted to avoid secession so I guess there were 2 democratic parties and one democratic leaning party) won all the southern red states...er, I mean green and orange and blue states  Pretty wild.