Trump-Biden Debates set

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(05-19-2024, 05:58 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: Those on the right and yes MAGA republicans see election interference take many forms, not just corrupt judges and stuffing the ballot box.

The problem is that this is exactly what MAGA republicans believe, that ballot boxes were stuffed and a corrupt system full of corrupt people covered up this enormous treason and betrayal of the people. That is what Trump is saying time and again to the cheers of his supporters, not "election interference takes many forms", but that it took specifically this form, that it was stolen from him. If Trump and them just admitted that these things did not happen, there'd be some ground for a debate. But as long as this wrong narrative is pounded, there's no honest exchange to be had.

And you might fall into the same category or not, I don't know. But let me ask you, is Trump telling the truth when he claims ballots were made disappear, mysterious votes showed up, millions voted illegally, all that jazz, and he actually won in a landslide were the election not stolen? Truth or falsehood? If we can see eye to eye on that very basic issue, I'm more than willing to debate all kinds of other topics, and certainly not in total disagreement with everything you say. But not while not also calling out Trump for his stolen election lies, just for reality's sake.