Trump-Biden Debates set

[Mike M (the other one)]

(05-22-2024, 07:03 AM)hollodero Wrote: Well... let me say, I have a hard time believing you feel 100% comfortable with these arguments. A lot of loose interpretation? Well, this often is true and imho part of the problem at times, but we're talking about fake elector schemes here. Like say the state of Arizona falling for Trump in a fair 2024 election without any proof of tampering - and then have the democratic-led state say, well, we do not respect this result and send alternate electors to Washington, ones that would vote for Biden in the EC instead. Or Biden pressuring Kamala Harris to disobey her constitutional duty and not certify the election because of alternate electors or completely unproven claims of massive election fraud. I mean, all that can not be within the realms of a loose interpretation, this can only be clearly wrong. If not legally, then morally, and not least for democracy itself. And that's not even mentioning all the violence and folks bringing gallows for Kamala if she does not comply, the real ugliness of it all.
Same goes for pressuring state secretaries to find Trump, or Biden, the exact number of votes to win a state he actually lost. No matter how the actual votes add up in the end, a president just can not do that and imho that is not and can not be a partisan issue. Have you ever heard the phone call in full? It's something real and unaltered within all the media noise.

Btw. I don't say all that to deter you from voting for Trump or to scold you for it or anything like that. I get that, and I get you feel there's no danger and I hope you're right. It's just, there might come the point where it's up to folks like you, reasonable conservatives, to put a stop to it if need be, no one else can. That's why I would say, just don't be delusional about Trump or folks like Trump and what they really are and thrive to be, that would be my request. I feel your vigilance is needed.

No, I'm not 100% fine with it, but in my eyes it's Politics, this is what happens when the 2 ruling parties refuse to work with each other over the simplest of things. So it's not a surprise that one or both will resort to this type of behavior. I'm just waiting to see what's next. 

I'm not worried about Trump, he's easy to predict what he will do. 

(05-22-2024, 07:03 AM)hollodero Wrote: I have to say, I think it's good that both candidates are on the ballot on every state. Should the citizens of Alabama and Ohio really have no effective choice at all, because of some legislative issues that are not their fault? And btw. same goes for Colorado too.

And of course they would not do the same for Kennedy. I'd even be more cynical and claim they might start contemplating it as soon as he's predicted to take more votes from Trump than from Biden. I mean, I don't try to hide it, I quite dislike the democratic party too, I think they're at fault for many things and nothing I say I say on their behalf.

I agree it shouldn't be an issue and the candidate from both parties should be on all ballots, but they are making it one by not complying with Deadlines that are Pre-set, they don't change. 

Another point, if they wouldn't do it for Kennedy then why should they expect it to be done for them?  You know, treat everyone the same follow the rules and so on and i dont' care if an R misses the deadline, tough shit.