06-28-2024, 12:26 PM
(06-28-2024, 11:51 AM)KillerGoose Wrote: I had this conversation last night and this morning about Gavin. My wife asked me "you really want Newsom to run for president?" No, he isn't my top choice, but that isn't the point. The point is there isn't really anyone else who stands a chance IMO. He's the most presidential candidate that the Dems have. I have heard Buttigieg mentioned, and I like him as well. He's young and charismatic and has really soared up the political ladder, but I still think Newsom is probably the best bet from the Dems perspective.
I don't think the Dems have much of a shot at this point in all honesty. Even if they throw up Pete or Gavin, it's just too late in the process. We're barely more than four months until election day. On top of that, there was a poll back in March that pitted a hypothetical Trump vs. Gavin matchup and Trump was killing him in it. Granted, just one poll. However, I think we're trading "sure defeat" for "likely defeat" by switching candidates now.
I cannot stress enough just how god awful Newsome is when the rubber meets the road. As pointed out he's young and has charisma, and that's about it. The Dems fully deserve to lose either way, they've been deceiving the American public about the mental state of the supposed POTUS for years now. People should honestly be outraged and out for blood. Figuratively speaking.
(06-28-2024, 12:00 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It really is the Democrats own fault for the position that their Party is in right now. They had two very electable candidates, and they ran them both right out of the Party. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema.
I don't know how presidential either of them are, especially Sinema. I will agree that the bullpen on either side is looking thin to non-existent.