07-01-2024, 11:40 AM
(07-01-2024, 11:25 AM)Dill Wrote: "Allowed"??? The debate was staged so we could judge both candidates. How Trump responds to something should have some bearing on how his performance is judged, and his possible performance as president.
Indeed so. So when are you going to start judging Biden? It's been a few days, but we'll wait.
Quote:This has been the MAGA take for some time now, rather different from that of the foreign policy establishment of the US and our NATO allies. Putin is responding to a specific balances of forces and opportunities in his region, not to whom is US president--the one MAGA variable.
It's been the take of anyone with a pulse and a functioning brain. The fact that "MAGA" has the same take has zero relevance as to its authenticity.
Quote:This doesn't "fly in the face" of my conclusion that Trump divides the country, introduces chaos into government--especially our intel services--and generates concern among our allies that we are not a reliable partner. I'm just considering more variables than you.
No, you're just considering the variables that benefit your position and ignoring the rather more marked ones that do not. Tangible reality rather trumps Dill's perception.
Quote:Right now, I am defining "alternative reality" as the one where Biden stole the election and now has weaponized the DOJ to against Trump, who has given up his private life to fight for the average American.
Fascinating. Also not what we're discussing. We're discussing the debate, not the events of four years ago. I absolutely understand why you want to discuss pretty much anything else, but it's rather boring. There are plenty of threads to engage on this topic.
Quote:So I live in the "reality" which rejects that conspiracy and recognizes it is used to manipulate tens of millions into supporting an autocrat, to the delight of adversaries like Putin. You had tremendous difficulty recognizing the Trump threat in 2020. No different this time around.
Trump is an autocrat now? I guess anything to distract you from Biden's bedshitting performance last week.
So, cards on the table. After that debate performance are you comfortable with Biden as POTUS?
