Biden vs. Trump debate

[Dill]

(07-01-2024, 11:40 AM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: This has been the MAGA take for some time now, rather different from that of the foreign policy establishment of the US and our NATO allies.  Putin is responding to a specific balances of forces and opportunities in his region, not to whom is US president--the one MAGA variable. 

It's been the take of anyone with a pulse and a functioning brain.  The fact that "MAGA" has the same take has zero relevance as to its authenticity.

This doesn't "fly in the face" of my conclusion that Trump divides the country, introduces chaos into government--especially our intel services--and generates concern among our allies that we are not a reliable partner. I'm just considering more variables than you. 

No, you're just considering the variables that benefit your position and ignoring the rather more marked ones that do not.  Tangible reality rather trumps Dill's perception.

Doesn't look like you know what variables there are. let alone how to weight them. 
Here is what I'm "considering." 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nato-allies-brace-possible-trump-president/
https://www.dw.com/en/experts-fear-trumps-nato-comments-made-europe-less-secure/a-68238790
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/09/us/politics/trump-2025-nato.html
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4459201-nato-allies-fear-repercussions-trump-reelection/
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/opinions/trump-second-term-us-allies-foreign-policy-ghitis/index.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/19/trump-nato-russia-republicans-europe/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/18/munich-security-conference-trump-nato-europe/  
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/biden-debate-performance-alarms-us-allies-worried-trump-win-rcna159387 etc etc etc 

So Dill's "perception" appears to be shared by our allies' foreign policy experts, not to mention their governments,
all of which you, apparently, were unaware. It's only in MAGA world that people believe 'the world respected us" when Trump was in office.
(That's what Trump told them to believe.) Now the specter of an unstable and unreliable ally disconcerts our allies to the cheers 
of adversaries of democracy the world over.