07-01-2024, 01:22 PM
(07-01-2024, 12:47 PM)Dill Wrote: Doesn't look like you know what variables there are. let alone how to weight them.
Here is what I'm "considering."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nato-allies-brace-possible-trump-president/
https://www.dw.com/en/experts-fear-trumps-nato-comments-made-europe-less-secure/a-68238790
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/09/us/politics/trump-2025-nato.html
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4459201-nato-allies-fear-repercussions-trump-reelection/
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/18/opinions/trump-second-term-us-allies-foreign-policy-ghitis/index.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/02/19/trump-nato-russia-republicans-europe/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/18/munich-security-conference-trump-nato-europe/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/biden-debate-performance-alarms-us-allies-worried-trump-win-rcna159387 etc etc etc
So Dill's "perception" appears to be shared by our allies' foreign policy experts, not to mention their governments,
all of which you, apparently, were unaware. It's only in MAGA world that people believe 'the world respected us" when Trump was in office.
(That's what Trump told them to believe.) Now the specter of an unstable and unreliable ally disconcerts our allies to the cheers
of adversaries of democracy the world over.
I honestly don't care at all about any of that. Trump has been decidedly anti-Russia, going so far as to exhort Europe to prepare to defend against Putin and his use of energy as a weapon/blunt tool for coercion. Given the choice between a POTUS that our allies are "comfortable with and our enemies walk all over versus a POTUS that makes our allies uncomfortable and our enemies fear I'm taking the later every day and twice on Sunday.
Maybe you should be more concerned about what's in the interest of the US and less concerned about the feelings of our allies?
Lastly, my entire point on this subject was refuting your inane claim that Trump emboldens our enemies when he clearly achieves the exact opposite result.