07-01-2024, 01:28 PM
(07-01-2024, 01:04 PM)Dill Wrote: You are putting on a clinic in compartmentalization.
That's an interesting way to say I'm staying on topic.
Quote:Sorry, but Trump is in the debate as GOP candidate because tens of millions either believe his lie about a stolen election, or don't rank threats to democracy very highly, or both. That lie, in turn, validates his legitimacy as a candidate to those tens of millions, and establishes the platform from which he will decide policy--especially regarding law enforcement. He was asked DURING THE DEBATE WE ARE DISCUSSING, to confirm or deny that those hundreds convicted of trashing the Capitol and assaulting police officers were "HEROES." Did you catch his answer?
But you don't want to discuss the fact that Trump power rests on a lie embraced by millions, and how he might use that power to delude and manipulate.
That's "boring." There are other threads.
Sure you can discuss it. I'm just wondering when you're going to get to the other party in the debate, Biden. You don't seem to have much to say about him and I find that odd.
Quote:You aren't sure, or doubt, that Trump is an autocrat? And you've been strongly opposed to any discussion of historical or social-science scholarship on authoritarian government and backsliding democracies, like it's all just partisan name-calling.
I'm strongly opposed to your bedwetting analysis being purported as fact, that is true.
Quote:And no, I'm not "comfortable" with Biden as president. But I'm much less comfortable with an autocrat who tried to seize power illegally after four years of chaotic administration, and now, propelled back into power by a mass of true believers, promises retribution if he gets into office. This looks like incredible partisanship to you because now, as back in 2020, you don't see any special threat in Trump; complaints about his criminality, disregard for democracy, and power over the "perceptions" of millions, are so "four years ago."
I still don't see much of a threat in Trump in that regard. I think he'll serve four more years, incorrectly claim to be the only POTUS to be reelected after losing the office and we'll get pretty much the same four years we got last time. I also think we'll get a end to the war in Ukraine and Gaza, one of which certainly won't occur under Biden.
What I find suspiciously absent from your arguments is the fact that a senile man is currently our President and that his handlers, and the media, have been lying to us about his condition for years. I know that's why you're laser focused on Trump, because to discuss Biden even a little is pulling the covers back on a massive deception, an usurpation of power by unknown parties and a complete lack of interest from the fourth estate in investigating either of those things. But keep shouting Trump and try and distract everyone from what's actually happening, what what you fear might happen.
