Biden vs. Trump debate

[Dill]

(07-01-2024, 12:48 PM)hollodero Wrote: Yeah, he was treated unfairly at times. But for one, everyone who is president was treated unfairly at times. But mostly, I have a hard time accepting the argument "look at what democrats did" or "look how the media reported inaccurately about him". They all did. But there's just a reality beyond the narratives. Like Trump having a loose morale, eg. he ran a scam university, misappropriated charity money to buy paintings of himself, all these things are true and of course only the top molecules of the iceberg.

That was a pretty sensible post, overall, and the bolded seems a good balancing point.

It raises the question of what is different about Trump's situation. It can't be just that news media sometimes exaggerated or got him wrong.

So I want to add one thing about the argument that Trump was somehow "mistreated" by media he used pretty well to spread some very dangerous lies.

I'm astonished at how the "media persecution" argument, along with "they just hate Trump," has been so successful at separating cause from effect. Like actual Trump criminality is not really what motivates Trump reporting in the MSM. When stories appear about his obstruction of justice or use of his office to attack election opponents or over throw the government. Rather, people are just out to get Trump because he's orange and has mean tweets. 

Like actual criminality should not figure in assessing a candidates fitness for the highest office in the land and cannot REALLY be the source of negative media.

I thought Obama was treated unfairly rather a lot--daily by the RWM, which by 2008 had coalesced into a systematic attack on his presidency working with the GOP. But time and again accusations began without proof, and evaporated for lack of it (e.g.,Fast and Furious, IRS, SEVEN Benghazi investigations). Much like the recent attempt to impeach Biden.

So many Trump investigations, on the other hand, began with proof and then evaporated or stalled, owing to the difficulty of prosecuting a leader in office with his party behind him.