07-02-2024, 12:10 AM
(07-01-2024, 10:21 PM)Dill Wrote: I'm not the only one making a claim here.
You've already seen a good deal of evidence--e.g., that US allies worry about a Trump presidency.
Yeah, NATO allies whinging because Trump gives them shit about historically failing to live up to their responsibilities isn't exactly the three alarm fire for me it is for you. Are you actually suggesting something as stupid as Trump dissolving NATO?
Quote:But you're not sure why Putin should like that?
Putin doesn't seem to give a shit when a "pro-NATO" POTUS is in office as he consistently invades his neighbors during their tenure.
Quote:Trump's own NSC advisor thinks Trump behavior and policy aligned with Moscow's wishes.
Good for him. I don't and don't see any evidence of that.
Quote:But Trump claims that he was tuff on Russia. Your counter-evidence goes no further than his claims.
His word is enough for you.
No, actual facts are good enough for me. Facts like the following. Trump warned and exhorted NATO allies to start funding their military to stand up to Putin. Trump warned NATO allies that Putin is an aggressor who uses energy as a billy club to extort and manipulate them. Putin was inactive for the entire four years Trump was POTUS. Before Trump he literally annexed the entire Crimea while Obama did not a damned thing. Once Biden was in office he initiated a full scale invasion of Ukraine. You'll have show me what tangible benefits Putin gained during Trump's administration that made him so uncharacteristically docile. Actual hard proof, not the "belief" of a former employee with who knows what motivations.
C'mon Dill, you like hard facts, why are you so keen to ignore them in this case?
