Biden vs. Trump debate

[Mike M (the other one)]

(07-03-2024, 11:41 AM)Dill Wrote: Just to bring you up to speed, Hollo, federal elections are run by states, not the federal government. That's why states prosecute election fraud in their states. E.g., those responsible for Trump's forged slates of electors are prosecuted by state governments. 
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/25/1075304670/prosecutors-in-multiple-states-are-investigating-false-electoral-college-submiss

I think you are quite right that state/federal is not the real issue, if you mean that the real issue is that Trump should be held accountable somewhere for what he did, not re-elected for showing his willingness to break the law to stay in power.

As far as "whattabout Dems submitting lists of forged electors?"-- that's just more disinformation. E.g., in the case of Hawaii, 1960, there was a legitimate question of who won the state, Nixon or Kennedy, and so Dems prepared an "unofficial" slate transparently, above board, not in secret. When a recount showed definitively that Kennedy won, the Dems presented their slate, cleared by a judge, certified by the Hawaii governor, and sent to DC as Hawaii's legal and legitimate votes. It's only after you run it through 5 minutes of Fox/Newsmax commentary and all the relevant factors are eliminated that you get to "both sides do it."  But that's enough for a plurality of voters now.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/07/1960-electoral-college-certificates-false-trump-electors-00006186
https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/politifactwisconsin/2023/12/15/fact-check-johnson-claim-dems-used-alternative-electors-repeatedly/71895208007/

A reminder: One side's presidential candidate attempted a coup and they want to re elect him. The other side wants him held accountable, and very much NOT re-elected given his criminal actions. That is not "both sides" just trying to "1up" each other instead of "voting what's bestI

Then the Election of 1876, where the Dems used Fake Electors to halt the process as well.
How can it be disinformation if it happened and is a true statement, or is it just because it doesn't fit your current narrative? 


I mean seriously, when it comes to Hamas, history matters, but when it comes to Trump, it now doesn't? Make up your mind, You aren't looking like a man of principle as much as you look like a biased individual. tsk tsk