Biden vs. Trump debate

[Dill]

(07-03-2024, 01:29 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Then the Election of 1876, where the Dems used Fake Electors to halt the process as well.
How can it be disinformation if it happened and is a true statement, or is it just because it doesn't fit your current narrative? 

I mean seriously, when it comes to Hamas, history matters, but when it comes to Trump, it now doesn't?   Make up your mind, You aren't looking like a man of principle as much as you look like a biased individual. tsk tsk

Well I don't really contest that ONE time 148 years ago.  It happened and can be a "true statement," not disinformation, so long as
we recognize that even then it was not a coup attempt directed from the WH by staff and state party leaders who knew that, by their
own measurements, their president had lost and so were consciously breaking the law to hold on to power. * Rather, there were genuine
questions about the outcome in at least four states, and because the Constitution offered no path out of the confusion, both parties
agreed to a process for sorting it out. 

But I question the relevance of 1876 to the post 1945 era. And evidently so do your GOP fellow travelers, as they attempted to turn events like
like the perfectly legal management of electoral conflict in 1960 into actual disinformation about what happened then and on 1/6. 

And I'd say history matters as much or more when it comes to Trump. That's why I don't go around claiming 
"Dems did it too!" and then referring to historical examples in which Dems clearly DIDN'T do it too. 

Trump attempted to steal the 2020 election to illegally stay in power, while convincing tens of millions of voters that it was 
really "the left" which had stolen the election. That's history now, and yes it matters--especially now that those who still don't believe
Trump was willing to break the law to retain power, or don't care, are prepared to elect him to another term with massively expanded immunity
from criminal prosecution. To save them from "the left." 

*There is another comparison to the present, though. Haye's win ended Reconstruction and set Southern states to passing laws which restricted the vote
without mentioning race.  After 1/6 we've seen a current surge of legislation to protect "voter integrity" based on claims Dems are the threat to
valid elections, not the guy attempted the greatest election fraud in US history--and continues to demand that all who serve him affirm the fraud.