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Confronting Racism
(02-12-2016, 08:17 PM)Benton Wrote: ... uh... why not just answer the question? Why change the question? Because it doesn't support your opinion?



...uh... I'm not following. If you stop someone on the street, you have no way of knowing occupation, family history, hobbies or the rest. All you've got is race, sex, age and physical appearance. So... no, you're incorrect.



Well this is just getting dumb.



You're not helping your cause here. Departments for years have admitted they do it to a degree. And to a degree it's acceptable. If it wasn't, local, state and federal departments in the last few years wouldn't have started placing more restrictions on what can be just cause for detaining someone. But the general idea is, if you're pulling people over solely because of race, then it's an issue.

I am not a fan of asking a question in response to a question.  However, there is a time to do so.  This was one of those times.  Your question can best be answered by repeating your question and replacing the words "serial killer" with "drug dealers and criminals".

Then you see that there are plenty of factors involved when a cop stops a person and race is only one of those factors and not even the main factor.

If you don't follow along that is your problem.  However I will try to help you understand.  Do you think a police officer knows any information on a serial killer?  No, they have to build a case, look at the evidence, build a profile, find people that fit the profile and then gather more information on those people.  They won't know what a person's job is, family history, hobbies and all the rest until they run a check on them.  First though, is to look at the factors in the profile that fits their suspect.  If he is white and 18-36, then they start a background on him.  This usually involves questioning him and his family.

Much like a cop who is looking for a drug dealer or other criminal would do.  If you are looking for a drug dealer, is he more likely at a country club or in a run down part of town?  (answer is: depends on the dealer) 

As to it getting dumb, that is probably because you don't understand it.  Please show a case where a cop admitted to stopping someone for just being black.  Every case where the claim was made the claim was made by the black person.  To me that is what I would call unreliable information.  It is biased.

I am not one who is complaining about profiling, departments do it, whites are also profiled, but blacks are the ones that think there is anything wrong with profiling.  We both have established that there are many factors involved that makes a person a target for the police and race is only a small factor at play.

I always find it laughable when I hear "he pulled me over for being black".  Even in broad daylight, you can't tell the race of a driver in front of you, yet blacks seem to think that by making the claim it is true.  For some reason, guys like you and Fred seem to believe them.

You can't even tell the age or the sex of the driver either, that comes after the stop.

btw, there are a lot of white drug dealers and criminals, I bet they were just victims of profiling as well.





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Confronting Racism - Belsnickel - 02-05-2016, 03:46 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - McC - 02-05-2016, 04:02 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Benton - 02-05-2016, 04:15 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Belsnickel - 02-05-2016, 05:00 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Benton - 02-05-2016, 05:37 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-08-2016, 02:10 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 05:07 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Belsnickel - 02-05-2016, 05:26 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 05:46 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-05-2016, 05:51 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Belsnickel - 02-05-2016, 05:57 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 06:01 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Belsnickel - 02-05-2016, 06:06 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 06:14 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Belsnickel - 02-05-2016, 06:21 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Belsnickel - 02-05-2016, 06:55 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 07:10 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Nebuchadnezzar - 02-05-2016, 06:57 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 07:12 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - SunsetBengal - 02-05-2016, 07:59 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-05-2016, 08:14 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-05-2016, 08:27 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 08:40 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-05-2016, 09:00 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 09:06 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-05-2016, 09:14 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 09:19 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Benton - 02-05-2016, 09:33 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 10:33 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-05-2016, 09:55 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 11:00 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - NATI BENGALS - 02-06-2016, 06:19 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-06-2016, 08:40 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Belsnickel - 02-05-2016, 08:15 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 08:34 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Belsnickel - 02-05-2016, 09:25 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Belsnickel - 02-05-2016, 11:01 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-05-2016, 11:08 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-05-2016, 11:40 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-06-2016, 03:23 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Nebuchadnezzar - 02-06-2016, 01:34 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Belsnickel - 02-06-2016, 08:41 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-06-2016, 11:35 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - xxlt - 02-06-2016, 11:36 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Belsnickel - 02-06-2016, 02:09 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - McC - 02-06-2016, 04:46 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Aquapod770 - 02-06-2016, 08:59 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-06-2016, 09:17 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-06-2016, 10:07 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-07-2016, 12:05 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Aquapod770 - 02-07-2016, 04:01 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-07-2016, 04:30 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-07-2016, 05:19 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-07-2016, 05:41 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-07-2016, 06:05 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Aquapod770 - 02-07-2016, 06:29 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-07-2016, 05:32 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-07-2016, 05:44 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-07-2016, 06:17 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-07-2016, 10:53 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-08-2016, 11:02 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-08-2016, 11:23 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-08-2016, 11:57 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Brownshoe - 02-08-2016, 01:43 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-09-2016, 11:00 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-08-2016, 10:24 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-09-2016, 11:32 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-10-2016, 07:56 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-10-2016, 10:54 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-10-2016, 11:28 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-10-2016, 10:57 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-11-2016, 04:54 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-11-2016, 07:27 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-11-2016, 10:46 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 10:26 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 11:02 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-11-2016, 03:57 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-11-2016, 05:01 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-11-2016, 11:58 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-11-2016, 12:55 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vas Deferens - 02-11-2016, 02:38 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-11-2016, 10:38 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Rotobeast - 02-11-2016, 10:48 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 02:02 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-12-2016, 08:10 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 08:36 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-12-2016, 08:39 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 11:07 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-12-2016, 11:24 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 11:35 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 11:37 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-12-2016, 11:38 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 11:57 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-12-2016, 12:09 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Benton - 02-12-2016, 12:19 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-12-2016, 11:53 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 12:01 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 12:39 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-12-2016, 07:35 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 08:07 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-12-2016, 09:52 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 10:27 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-13-2016, 05:05 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-13-2016, 05:08 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 09:35 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-13-2016, 09:44 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 09:49 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 09:31 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-13-2016, 11:06 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-13-2016, 11:21 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 01:49 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 03:10 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 04:12 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 04:53 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 05:48 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-14-2016, 12:37 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 06:05 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 11:06 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 11:23 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-14-2016, 01:48 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-14-2016, 11:26 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 11:32 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-14-2016, 01:53 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-14-2016, 10:50 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 10:53 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-14-2016, 10:26 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 10:30 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-14-2016, 10:57 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 11:03 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-14-2016, 11:08 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 11:12 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-14-2016, 11:20 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 10:17 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-09-2016, 01:01 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-10-2016, 08:04 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-10-2016, 05:58 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-10-2016, 11:33 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-07-2016, 11:55 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-10-2016, 09:18 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Nebuchadnezzar - 02-11-2016, 04:00 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 10:33 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 10:49 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 11:11 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 11:52 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 12:28 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-12-2016, 01:51 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 01:55 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 07:15 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-12-2016, 02:00 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 07:22 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Benton - 02-12-2016, 07:32 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 07:49 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Benton - 02-12-2016, 08:17 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 08:49 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Benton - 02-13-2016, 01:23 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 01:59 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-13-2016, 11:03 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 11:09 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-13-2016, 11:18 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 11:34 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-13-2016, 11:39 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 12:00 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-13-2016, 12:02 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 12:14 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-13-2016, 12:29 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 09:13 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-14-2016, 12:49 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-12-2016, 10:01 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 10:16 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-12-2016, 10:32 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 10:59 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-12-2016, 11:39 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 01:57 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 11:38 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Benton - 02-13-2016, 02:50 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 09:29 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-14-2016, 12:24 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 04:30 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-13-2016, 09:24 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-14-2016, 03:46 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 04:00 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 05:21 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-14-2016, 12:50 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Rotobeast - 02-12-2016, 10:41 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 12:31 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 07:38 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vas Deferens - 02-12-2016, 08:04 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 08:30 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-12-2016, 12:31 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 12:43 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-12-2016, 12:51 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 12:55 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-12-2016, 12:59 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 01:06 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-12-2016, 01:35 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 01:53 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-12-2016, 07:06 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 01:58 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-12-2016, 12:46 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 12:53 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-12-2016, 12:57 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 01:00 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-12-2016, 01:07 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-12-2016, 01:16 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-12-2016, 01:18 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-12-2016, 01:23 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 01:32 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - bfine32 - 02-12-2016, 05:10 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 01:29 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - GMDino - 02-12-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-12-2016, 12:47 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Nebuchadnezzar - 02-12-2016, 01:00 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-12-2016, 01:04 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Nebuchadnezzar - 02-12-2016, 01:09 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-12-2016, 09:58 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-14-2016, 12:32 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-14-2016, 12:34 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-14-2016, 12:51 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 02:17 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-14-2016, 10:22 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 10:29 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Vlad - 02-13-2016, 11:17 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-14-2016, 12:25 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 06:24 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - BmorePat87 - 02-14-2016, 10:34 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - Sovereign Nation - 02-14-2016, 10:40 AM
RE: Confronting Racism - fredtoast - 02-14-2016, 12:47 PM
RE: Confronting Racism - Benton - 02-14-2016, 01:57 PM

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