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(04-13-2016, 12:31 PM)fredtoast Wrote: No it isn't.  It doesn't hurt or harm anyone in any way.  

But forcing a transgender person to use the opposite bathroom hurts everyone.  The person forced to use the wrong bathroom feels uncomfortable.  Everyone in the bathroom feels uncomfortable.

To me hurting people is "wrong", and not hurting people is "right".  

How do you judge what is right and wrong?

I don't believe forcing a transgender person to use the opposite bathroom hurts everyone, but besides that, I'm not in favor of forcing transgender people to use the opposite bathrooms. I'm in favor of forcing pre-op transgender people from using the opposite bathroom. With some exceptions, the only people uncomfortable would be the transgender person. And while I honestly dont' want to make anyone uncomfortable, I would do so at the risk of the larger group. I would rather 1 pre-op transgender woman be uncomfortable in the men's room, then the 4 or more naturally-born women (for lack of a better term) be uncomfortable.

I mean if the whole point of this discussion is to make people comfortable, then we first need to realize, we're not going to make things comfortable for EVERYONE (heck, I know some people who can't use public restrooms at all; not because of their gender but more because of the idea of the dirtiness of them) and if that's the case, we should focus on making things as comfortable as possible for most people.