Paulie G

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(10-18-2016, 03:06 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Even more of a testament to Zimmer.  I could expect up and down seasons with trash but when you return 5 players that played at a pro-bowl/all pro level it is absolutely inexcusable!!!!!! 

In case you wonder whom I am talking about:
Dunlap
Atkins
Burfict
Adam jones
Iloka

literally half the D played at a pro bowl level last year (and not by name recognition) Paul G sucks.  Maybe his players haven't bought in to vanilla yet, but that still falls on coaching.  Look at what the bills have done with a different OC (and without their best WR!) 

Stop with comparing Paul g to Zimmer BS, it isn't even close.  In fact I would go on a limb to say bengals D could be best in the league if Zimmer was here.  What he is doing in minn is amazing.  It has nothing to do with talent.  They play disciplined football, stay in lanes, wrap up, know assignments.  Good things happen when you play fundamental football.  Once you get he fundamentals down, then you can throw in the creative
Blitzes and plays.  Unfortunately it seems the bengals have forgot how to tackle, stay home, and play intelligent d.  Once we do anything creative you see missed assignments and walk in touchdowns.

Can this be corrected still, I hope so but it falls even more on the leaders of our D.  Bengals need help coaching up players at this point.


I'm done in this thread.  

Same coach, same players with the exception of Nelson and Gilberry.  Gilberry did not play all that well last year (which may have been an injury).

The big difference is not the scheming, but the execution.  Our safeties have flat out sucked, our linebackers (with the exception of V. Rey) have also underperformed.   Maualuga and Burfict look fat and slow and (unlike last year) Burfict had to spend not only time off the field but out off the team as well.

There's only so much you can do when you are just being outplayed.  Even Geno is not finishing the way he did last year - though he is still playing at a high level.  If you blitz you're putting pressure on an under performing linebacking squad and our safeties.   Our tackling has been almost universally bad.

I don't lay most of this at the feet of Paulie.   I do wonder when I hear that teams like Seattle practice at pretty much game speed and we do not.  So much of tackling is timing.  If you're practicing at a different speed you have to adjust during games.

I just think there are a lot of factors causing the slide in our defense.   And keep in mind that we were a bend/ don't break defense last year and struggled last year against the run.  Most of the contributing factors relate mostly to the players executing - and maybe somewhat to the head coach's philosophy on how we practice.

For example, Paulie made adjustments at half time to deal with Hogan running amuck in our secondary.  The players had trouble right off the bat in the 2nd half with it.  There were designated spies and they got washed out of the play.  Not a coaching error, an execution issue.

I think Paulie is fine.