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Electoral College Appeal
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(11-12-2016, 08:13 PM)treee Wrote: As it stands now, there is a very low chance that the Dems ever win while losing the popular vote. The EC gives a huge boost rural communities, which we all know tend to lean right in general. Therefor the EC will continue to favor Republicans until a different system is in place or the rural voter preference changes.

But the popular vote is hugely boosted by urban communities, that tend to lean left in general.  People are influenced by their environment, their political views are shaped by the people around them.

So I don't see how popular vote is better than the EC - if you're a Democrat, you think the popular vote is fair, and if you're a Republican you think the EC is more fair.  If the demographics were reversed, you can bet what is "fair" would reverse as well.

Both systems are problematic as the federal govt encroaches more and more on state and local govt.  I do not think it is fair for a handful of large cities to effectively dictate how the rest of the country lives.

I think the system is pretty darn good, and I appreciate the brilliance of it to anticipate these issues and address it fairly.  You have the House, which is specific representation while being based on population.  Then you have the Senate, which is less specific representation while being based on geography.  And the POTUS is in between.  I truly think the system sets a pretty good balance for considering both population and geography.

Plus, when you're talking less than 1-2% of a difference in voting, in general and state by state and sometimes even on the local level....not sure that is significant, and until one of the parties starts doing something good consistently I think we'll continue to see the country alternate between who has the chance to prove they can do good things consistently.

Maybe the bigger problem is 80% of your voters are lazy and/or ignorant.  They reliably vote for the R or D, and the only choice they're really making is whether or not to vote.  I'd rather see a system that doesn't reward whichever party has brainwashed more people to blindly vote for it.
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Electoral College Appeal - xxlt - 11-11-2016, 06:10 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-11-2016, 06:23 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - CKwi88 - 11-11-2016, 06:30 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - xxlt - 11-12-2016, 09:27 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - Goalpost - 11-11-2016, 06:37 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - bfine32 - 11-11-2016, 08:04 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - bfine32 - 11-12-2016, 02:22 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - GMDino - 11-17-2016, 08:48 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - bfine32 - 11-17-2016, 09:14 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - GMDino - 11-17-2016, 09:21 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - PhilHos - 11-18-2016, 11:28 AM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - GMDino - 11-18-2016, 11:49 AM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - treee - 11-12-2016, 03:43 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - bfine32 - 11-12-2016, 06:12 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-12-2016, 04:36 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - bfine32 - 11-12-2016, 06:15 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - treee - 11-12-2016, 08:13 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - JustWinBaby - 11-12-2016, 08:45 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - treee - 11-12-2016, 08:51 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - JustWinBaby - 11-12-2016, 09:32 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-12-2016, 08:20 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-12-2016, 09:11 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - treee - 11-12-2016, 09:13 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - JustWinBaby - 11-12-2016, 09:56 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - xxlt - 11-12-2016, 10:03 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - JustWinBaby - 11-12-2016, 10:13 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - xxlt - 11-14-2016, 11:06 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - bfine32 - 11-15-2016, 02:07 AM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - xxlt - 11-15-2016, 08:11 AM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - bfine32 - 11-15-2016, 10:12 AM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-12-2016, 09:24 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - JustWinBaby - 11-12-2016, 10:20 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-12-2016, 10:22 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - JustWinBaby - 11-13-2016, 12:36 AM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - GMDino - 11-13-2016, 11:43 AM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-13-2016, 04:42 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - JustWinBaby - 11-13-2016, 07:05 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-13-2016, 06:11 PM
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RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-13-2016, 07:32 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - samhain - 11-13-2016, 08:34 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-13-2016, 08:52 PM
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