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Electoral College Appeal
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(11-12-2016, 09:13 PM)treee Wrote: Wait, doesn't that destroy the whole argument for using EC in the first place?

EC is determined by the number of reps, plus 2 senators, in each state.

So you're vote counts equally in your state for your senators, and in your district for your reps. 

This is just an odd argument to me because I don't hear people complaining that 2 Senators per state is wrong.  Your vote for POTUS is exactly proportional to your say in the House and Senate.  And putting aside gerrymandering, I also don't hear many people saying it's unfair you don't get to vote for ALL the reps in your state.

If CA were 80% Democrat, we're still only going to give them 55 reps, and 55 electoral votes. We're not going to let them "export" that 30% margin, nor give them 30% more electoral votes. How CA chooses will not impact how OH chooses to cast it's electoral votes.

So what the EC really comes down to is your vote counts equally within your state, and that state is going to cast it's electoral votes by popular tally.  But what it's not going to do, given disparities in demographics and ideology between, say CA and FL, is adjust your electoral count up or down based on how the popular votes skews relative to national averages.

Can the EC lines be drawn better, perhaps not even based along state lines?  Probably.  Would it be better to break the EC into more geographies (say 200 Presidential "precincts" instead of 53 or whatever?).  Possibly.  But somewhere in the formula you have to limit or adjust undue influence of dense population centers.
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Electoral College Appeal - xxlt - 11-11-2016, 06:10 PM
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RE: Electoral College Appeal - treee - 11-12-2016, 03:43 PM
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RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-12-2016, 04:36 PM
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RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-12-2016, 08:20 PM
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RE: Electoral College Appeal - treee - 11-12-2016, 09:13 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - JustWinBaby - 11-12-2016, 09:56 PM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - xxlt - 11-12-2016, 10:03 PM
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RE: Electoral College Appeal - bfine32 - 11-15-2016, 02:07 AM
RE: Electoral College Appeal - xxlt - 11-15-2016, 08:11 AM
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RE: Electoral College Appeal - Belsnickel - 11-12-2016, 09:24 PM
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