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Monday Night Massacre
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(02-01-2017, 07:45 AM)djam Wrote: Well Dill, we both know the only real fix for it no matter how frequent or infrequent are voter ID laws. If I need ID to get a can of beer, cash a check and the very many other things you have to show ID for, then showing ID to vote just seems like a no-brainer. Tell me again why the left is sooooo against voter ID laws?

I not sure we "both" know the only real fix--especially since we both don't agree there is a problem--but I'd be happy to tell you why "the left" is against voter ID laws.

There are three main reasons.

1. There doesn't seem to be much voter fraud of the sort an ID is designed to prevent. Millions upon millions of votes over years and less than a hundred actual, intentional cases.  Hennepin County in Minnesota calculated the cost at over 1.4 million dollars to provide IDs for Minneapolis, and they hadn't a single case of voter fraud in over a decade.

2.  Voter ID laws would prevent thousands of people from voting--mostly elderly and minorities.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-voter-id-law-would-exclude-up-to-700000-young-minorities/
https://thinkprogress.org/this-is-what-voter-id-laws-looks-like-when-they-hit-real-people-f02946367dd3#.exhnc3g58
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Robert-Reich/2014/0609/Why-Mississippi-s-voter-ID-law-hurts-the-poor

3. Voter ID laws appear to be motivated by racism and partisan ends; they target Democrat constituencies like the elderly and minorities.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/court-north-carolina-voter-id-law-targeted-black-voters/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/03/courts-are-finally-pointing-out-the-racism-behind-voter-id-laws/?utm_term=.77902eda5bce
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/confusion-over-south-carolina-id-law-could-keep-voters-away

Here is my favorite: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT2q7cKB-4g

So "leftists" oppose voter id laws because they are aimed at a non-problem, unnecessarily harass and prevent thousands from voting, and are intended to reduce Democrat turnout.
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Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 12:53 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 01:14 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Vas Deferens - 01-31-2017, 01:25 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 01:32 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Vas Deferens - 01-31-2017, 01:37 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - xxlt - 01-31-2017, 09:46 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - GMDino - 01-31-2017, 10:34 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Belsnickel - 01-31-2017, 10:46 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 11:56 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Vas Deferens - 01-31-2017, 10:52 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 01-31-2017, 11:38 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Vas Deferens - 01-31-2017, 11:43 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 11:51 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Vas Deferens - 01-31-2017, 11:55 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 01-31-2017, 12:12 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 06:27 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 01-31-2017, 09:33 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 10:29 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-01-2017, 04:52 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 01-31-2017, 11:53 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - TheLeonardLeap - 02-02-2017, 08:38 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-02-2017, 10:08 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - bfine32 - 01-31-2017, 11:47 AM
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RE: Monday Night Massacre - Belsnickel - 01-31-2017, 12:49 PM
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RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 01-31-2017, 01:38 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 06:29 PM
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RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-01-2017, 10:15 AM
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RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-01-2017, 07:45 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-01-2017, 04:40 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-02-2017, 09:06 AM
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RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-02-2017, 04:24 PM
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RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-02-2017, 07:03 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-03-2017, 08:26 AM
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RE: Monday Night Massacre - Griever - 02-03-2017, 09:43 AM
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RE: Monday Night Massacre - Belsnickel - 02-01-2017, 02:38 PM
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