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Monday Night Massacre
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(01-31-2017, 12:53 AM)Dill Wrote: This follows up recent threads posted by Dino and Pat over the most current scandal/crisis of the not-yet-two-week- old Trump presidency. The firing of an acting attorney general amidst the general confusion of an unconstitutional Muslim ban deserves its own thread.  I am old enough to remember Nixon's "Saturday Night Massacre." This does not rise to that level--yet--but it is amazing, unprecedented and chaotic--the three words which journalists will be wearing out over the next few months as the extent of incompetence becomes plain.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/trump-immigration-ban-memo.html?_r=0
President Trump fired his acting attorney general on Monday after she defiantly refused to defend his immigration executive order, accusing the Democratic holdover of trying to obstruct his agenda for political reasons.

Taking action in an escalating crisis for his 10-day-old administration, Mr. Trump declared that Sally Q. Yates had “betrayed” the administration. . . .

The extraordinary legal standoff capped a tumultuous day in which the White House confronted an outpouring of dissent over Mr. Trump’s temporary ban on entry visas for people from seven predominantly Muslim countries. Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, went so far as to warn State Department officials that they should leave their jobs if they did not agree with Mr. Trump’s agenda, after State Department officials circulated a so-called dissent memo on the order.

Over the weekend, four federal judges temporarily blocked part of the executive order, prohibiting the government from sending people back to their home countries.


Looks like the all important dissent channel at State will be shut down as well. This after Trump has installed Bannon on the NSC and initially dumped the head of the CIA.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politics/susan-rice-steve-bannon/

President Donald Trump further reorganized the National Security Council on Monday after he came under sharp criticism for ousting the country's most senior intelligence and military officials as regular members of the Principals Committee -- and installing one of his top political advisers on the key panel.

Former acting CIA chief Michael Morell on Monday sharply criticized the move to add Bannon to the group while limiting the involvement of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs and DNI, calling it "unprecedented" in an appearance on "CBS This Morning."

I'm not sure if the ban is constitutional or not, but come on now... calling it a "Muslim Ban" is getting kind of ridiculous, isn't it? I realize that "Muslim Ban" is more provocative and exciting than "countries that are training or arming terrorists, or are otherwise unstable and hate us ban". Not even mentioning the fact that it bans all people from those countries, regardless of religion (10% of Syrians aren't Muslim). Here's this....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_by_country
1. Indonesia
2. Pakistan
3. India
4. Bangladesh
5. Nigeria

That's the top-5 countries in the world by Muslim population. None of them are on the banned list. On the other hand, those seven countries? They are only 12.2% of the world's Muslim population.

That means 87.8% of the world's Muslims can still enter and leave and enter the US again.

So seriously. Stop propagating the "Muslim Ban" term. It may not be found unconstitutional, and heck, I may not even agree with all those countries being on the list, but it's not a Muslim Ban.

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(01-31-2017, 11:38 AM)djam Wrote: Which is all the more reason we need voter ID laws. Both parties commit voter fraud in every single election. We just need to accept it and do something about it. 

(01-31-2017, 11:43 AM)Vas Deferens Wrote: Nice back step. You mean like voter suppression?   That seems like the only coordinated fraud of the American public.  

And I thought I read on breitbart that national ID's would lead to a bunch of FEMA coffins or something...  or is that no longer the case because daddy's a white guy?


You now need a background check in order to purchase ammo in California... but you think you shouldn't have to prove your identity in order to vote in our President? That seems like a rather silly stance.
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Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 12:53 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 01:14 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Vas Deferens - 01-31-2017, 01:25 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 01:32 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Vas Deferens - 01-31-2017, 01:37 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - xxlt - 01-31-2017, 09:46 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - GMDino - 01-31-2017, 10:34 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Belsnickel - 01-31-2017, 10:46 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 11:56 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Vas Deferens - 01-31-2017, 10:52 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 01-31-2017, 11:38 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Vas Deferens - 01-31-2017, 11:43 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 11:51 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Vas Deferens - 01-31-2017, 11:55 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 01-31-2017, 12:12 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 06:27 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 01-31-2017, 09:33 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 10:29 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-01-2017, 04:52 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 01-31-2017, 11:53 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - TheLeonardLeap - 02-02-2017, 08:38 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-02-2017, 10:08 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - bfine32 - 01-31-2017, 11:47 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - GMDino - 01-31-2017, 11:50 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - bfine32 - 01-31-2017, 12:21 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - bfine32 - 01-31-2017, 12:18 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - GMDino - 01-31-2017, 12:22 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - GMDino - 01-31-2017, 12:30 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - GMDino - 01-31-2017, 12:45 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - GMDino - 01-31-2017, 12:52 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Vas Deferens - 01-31-2017, 12:39 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - bfine32 - 01-31-2017, 12:45 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - GMDino - 01-31-2017, 12:50 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - bfine32 - 01-31-2017, 01:08 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - GMDino - 01-31-2017, 01:32 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - bfine32 - 01-31-2017, 01:47 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - GMDino - 01-31-2017, 01:57 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - bfine32 - 01-31-2017, 02:16 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - GMDino - 01-31-2017, 02:27 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Vas Deferens - 01-31-2017, 03:17 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - PhilHos - 01-31-2017, 03:45 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - PhilHos - 01-31-2017, 03:58 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - bfine32 - 01-31-2017, 12:42 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - bfine32 - 01-31-2017, 12:29 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Belsnickel - 01-31-2017, 12:49 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Belsnickel - 01-31-2017, 12:56 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 01-31-2017, 01:38 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 01-31-2017, 06:29 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-01-2017, 08:07 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-01-2017, 10:15 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Benton - 02-01-2017, 03:09 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Millhouse - 01-31-2017, 02:24 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - xxlt - 01-31-2017, 02:53 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-01-2017, 07:45 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-01-2017, 04:40 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-02-2017, 09:06 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-02-2017, 01:44 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Griever - 02-02-2017, 02:00 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-02-2017, 04:24 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Griever - 02-02-2017, 04:29 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - samhain - 02-02-2017, 05:14 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-02-2017, 07:03 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-03-2017, 08:26 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-03-2017, 09:15 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-03-2017, 09:33 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-03-2017, 09:41 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Griever - 02-03-2017, 09:43 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - djam - 02-03-2017, 09:46 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Griever - 02-03-2017, 09:56 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Griever - 02-03-2017, 10:04 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Bengalzona - 02-03-2017, 10:20 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Griever - 02-03-2017, 10:28 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Griever - 02-03-2017, 09:22 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-03-2017, 04:50 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Griever - 02-03-2017, 05:09 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-03-2017, 05:38 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Belsnickel - 02-01-2017, 02:38 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Belsnickel - 02-01-2017, 02:59 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Dill - 02-01-2017, 04:18 PM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Griever - 02-03-2017, 09:30 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - Benton - 02-03-2017, 10:23 AM
RE: Monday Night Massacre - TheLeonardLeap - 02-03-2017, 02:17 PM

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