03-06-2017, 12:42 AM
(03-05-2017, 11:28 PM)CageTheBengal Wrote: I don't know what to say really. People say they want decency most people would agree with that but then will brush it under the rug whenever Trump shows his inner barbarian or will try to point at something the left did to justify it. There is always a back door.
Well it definitely goes both ways. The left is saying, "well, if there was a FISA warrant that's not good for Trump because it points to evidence of a connection with Russia". Well, not really, considering only 0.05% of FISA applications get rejected and they apparently got rejected twice (until maybe a third time when they found a sympathetic judge).
Does the FISA warrant actually exist, and then we'd need a public review of the actual merit of the request before we make any judgements.
The truth will probably end-up somewhere in between. Maybe the warrant WAS granted on the basis of bad intel (hell, even potentially manufactured by the Russians). Maybe they had reason to believe Russia was attempting to communicate with the Trump campaign, and solicited or not they are actually surveiling Russia and not the Trump group. Or maybe there's nothing there at all.
And obviously they stopped short of manufacturing evidence to take Trump down (if they did anything malicious, at all). But then there's that curious EO in the final days that allowed for broad sharing across agencies. My understanding is any info inadvertently collected on private citizens is to be completely scrubbed, so I'm not sure how the Michael Flynn thing got out (but that's another topic) or some of these other things.
This is a very dangerous and damaging claim to be making. It needs to be investigated and someone needs to be held accountable.
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