Decency, Trump and Obama.

[*michaelsean*]

(03-06-2017, 09:35 AM)hollodero Wrote: Sure. You're not wrong here, and I did not intend to imply you were.
It's just scary.
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That is not a healthy attitude. Not in these times. And I say that with knowing exactly about political schadenfreude, which up to some point is an OK feeling. Not now.


Well, nothing. But that question is a false flag and dangerously short-sighted. As soon as things truly hurt everyday folk, it's already too late.

So let's look at things. You have a country with people all armed to the teeth, that more and more believe the true enemy is within their own society. Who see a president engaging in dark conspiracy theories promoting that very emotion. Who more and more lose basic trust in all of the institutions, all the agencies, in government. For they all got smeared based on nothing factual, e.g. nothing refutable. Now I don't know about you, but that sure seems dangerous.
And emotionally agitated people don't just calm down naturally, that's not how these things go. At some point it turns into a self-enhancing principle. All together, I talk about civil unrest, about people taking matters in their own hands, about division, about an ideological civil war. Things that stay for a long time and don't simply go away. I'm European, we historically know about these things.
And don't even start with "but the left..." and what protester threw a stone. It's about more than some idiots that exist on both sides. And this is your president's doing, who has no intention whatsoever to unite the country. And this is Bannon's agenda. 1:1.

Additionally, of course there are things like environment policy, which won't hurt you at this moment, so the question you asked is stupid to begin with. Sure it doesn't affect you now when lead is put in the rivers and whatnot. Sure it hurts your grand-chlldren more when CC dangers are neglected (OK, I believe in CC for scientific reasons, you probably don't believe in CC for ideological reasons, but just for the argument's sake). Or let's talk debt, or the loss of international reputation, which won't affect you right away either - most policies don't. So your question... really isn't amongst the most smart ones. And you know that. 

As far as debt goes, the last guy ran up a pretty good one.  International reputation?  I think it's time we rein it all in.  We will trade with other nations, but outside of that, let someone else try to run the world a while.  China would probably like the chance. We could save a fortune in military alone if we just had a defensive military.  spend saved military money on stronger measures to prevent terrorism here.  We've tried to police the world and it hasn't worked out that well.  Next man up.  Or maybe nobody up next.