Decency, Trump and Obama.

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(03-06-2017, 12:27 PM)michaelsean Wrote: As far as debt goes, the last guy ran up a pretty good one.

No doubt. This was discussed often, a vast ecomocic crisis, the automobile bailout and the wars were all part of the heritage Obama had to deal with. If he did good or bad, I don't know and it doesn't matter here. What I know is that Republicans were up in arms about the debt, maybe rightfully so - but also that Trump suggests a whole lot of things now that cost enormous amounts of money, they were listed and you know about it.
So whatever valid critizism there might be about Obamas handling of the finances, it's not like Trump will reduce the debt, it's more probable he multiplies it if all his plans go through. If one believes tariffs or cutting development aids will finance all that stuff, I'd say that's illusional.

(03-06-2017, 12:27 PM)michaelsean Wrote: International reputation?  I think it's time we rein it all in.  We will trade with other nations, but outside of that, let someone else try to run the world a while.  China would probably like the chance.

Fair enough.
Just, reputation isn't only an important thing if you want to rule the world. It's maybe even more important if you don't.

(03-06-2017, 12:27 PM)michaelsean Wrote: We could save a fortune in military alone if we just had a defensive military.  spend saved military money on stronger measures to prevent terrorism here.  We've tried to police the world and it hasn't worked out that well.  Next man up.  Or maybe nobody up next.  

Yeah you could save a fortune. Just, obviously you won't. New nukes, new carriers, new fancy stuff that doesn't exactly reduce the terrorism threat.