Decency, Trump and Obama.

[Dill]

(03-06-2017, 09:35 AM)hollodero Wrote: Well, nothing. But that question is a false flag and dangerously short-sighted. As soon as things truly hurt everyday folk, it's already too late.

So let's look at things. You have a country with people all armed to the teeth, that more and more believe the true enemy is within their own society. Who see a president engaging in dark conspiracy theories promoting that very emotion. Who more and more lose basic trust in all of the institutions, all the agencies, in government. For they all got smeared based on nothing factual, e.g. nothing refutable. Now I don't know about you, but that sure seems dangerous.
And emotionally agitated people don't just calm down naturally, that's not how these things go. At some point it turns into a self-enhancing principle. All together, I talk about civil unrest, about people taking matters in their own hands, about division, about an ideological civil war. Things that stay for a long time and don't simply go away. I'm European, we historically know about these things.
And don't even start with "but the left..." and what protester threw a stone. It's about more than some idiots that exist on both sides. And this is your president's doing, who has no intention whatsoever to unite the country. And this is Bannon's agenda. 1:1.

Additionally, of course there are things like environment policy, which won't hurt you at this moment, so the question you asked is stupid to begin with. Sure it doesn't affect you now when lead is put in the rivers and whatnot. Sure it hurts your grand-chlldren more when CC dangers are neglected (OK, I believe in CC for scientific reasons, you probably don't believe in CC for ideological reasons, but just for the argument's sake). Or let's talk debt, or the loss of international reputation, which won't affect you right away either - most policies don't. So your question... really isn't amongst the most smart ones. And you know that. 

So many good points here.  This indirectly points out the real problem, which is that for a portion of the electorate this unrest and potential damage was either unforeseeable or not a real problem.

A real problem, for example, would be how climate change scientists and the EPA are using hyperbolic warnings about global warming and corporate irresponsibility to impose socialism on us.  Trump has stopped them in their tracks. That is really why the MSM are trying to take him down.