It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition

[Vas Deferens]

(03-21-2017, 09:04 PM)Sociopathicsteelerfan Wrote: I'll certainly take you at your word, but I just don't think that's the case for many.  His actions on illegal immigration, the travel ban, his picks for cabinet positions, those are all political reasons people don't like him.  Again, his personal conduct and demeanor are the icing on the cake.  They aren't unimportant, but they aren't the key point.  Let's just say that if he was liberal politically and the same jerk he wouldn't face calls for impeachment from the same group of people.


I think you're wrong here too, for the same reason.  Most of the hate for Obama came from political differences, his being a black man (and secret muslim!) were merely the icing on the cake for them in the same way Trump's personality is for the current crop of hysterical people.  Also, as Bfine already pointed out, there was no one of prominence talking about blowing up the White House or making videos in which Obama was assassinated.  Many on the left have gone way overboard and the posters here are not immune to this.

I think I have a better understanding of your perspective now. While his cabinet picks have been a complete reversal from what he originally stated, and I believe take the country in the wrong direction in many cases, they still haven't actually accomplished anything to date. The travel ban is revealing in that it shows a complete lack of compassion and outright racism, imo, but still the system is working and it's getting shut down. For some reason I have more confidence in the system of checks and balances now than in the past. Maybe that's a self preservation tactic for my sanity, but I've noticed myself thinking that lately.

Again, and this may just be me, but my real problem with the guy is that he's only looking out for his own interests and is shaping up to be incredibly corrupt. I also don't think any of the other republican candidates would have garnered anywhere near the same disdain in the first couple of months. I think that says something about both the person and policy.

I completely accept the point bfine made regarding madonna and snoop. Not a good look, but they are using the same banal tactics trump employs by making wild statements to garner attention and paychecks. If DT wanted to win a popularity contest, he's gone about it all wrong. Who is actually surprised the guy who called Obama, a darling of the media and a new generation, a Muslim from Kenya? His complete ignorance to the concept of blowback is terrifying when put into the context of potus. There are plenty of examples of artists making poignant political statements that don't include empty illusions to assasination. Rick Ross - "I'm happy Donald trump became the president, because we gotta destroy it before we elevate."

I will openly admit that I hope the man is impeached solely because it would send a clear message that the potus is reserved for individuals who genuinely want to promote the best interests of the country, not their own. I also believe we deserve a leader who is much more mentally competent, compassionate and in touch with the actual American experience. He truely lacks in all areas by all accounts.

/VD out