Decency, Trump and Obama.

[hollodero]

(03-22-2017, 09:05 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Secondly: It is there for folks to listen to and read. They can decide if it was incorrect to suggest this indicates he may have been survielled. 

May have been. This whole show that republican gave, I happened to see it live out of London interest, was strange, strange, strange. FISA warrants involved, all completely legal, nothing to do with Russia, allegedly unmasked identities that in fact obviously weren't unmasked (that Nunes guy just stated he could conclude who the masked persons were, hence unmasking them himself), it made all zero sense to me.

About the surveillance and "somewhat vindicating" Trump's claims, I stand by by initial statement.

(03-05-2017, 06:01 PM)hollodero Wrote: First, even if Trump was surveilled, that doesn't mean in any way that his claims were right, or correct, or however this is turned. He blamed Obama directly. If Obama wasn't directly involved, Trump lied. No nuance to defend his tweets there. Either Obama illegally ordered a wire tap, or Trump is an arsonist that has no intention of uniting the country.

The possible incidental surveillance of possibly Trump (both not clear) in Trump Tower (seems unlikely) happened after the election (not before) and had nothing to do with Obama ordering it. Trump's blatant lie has not turned into anyting less blatant.

(03-22-2017, 09:05 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Finally: I have said (in this very thread I believe) that his comments about being survielled are some of the worst comments he's said since election and he should have been censured immediately. I do not mention this to explain myself to you as most here already realize the purpose of your existence in this forum. I mention this in case someone is stupid enough to take what you say with any degree of validity. 

I have no idea why they are after you on this one.