05-11-2017, 02:25 AM
(05-10-2017, 11:39 PM)hollodero Wrote: Nope, that is not a fair assessment of what the Democrats are doing and you're oversimplifying that.
Main reason: The chronology of events.
You can't (at least I think so) possibly think the whole Russia story is just "fake news", merely an insubstantial media invention. Never mind possible exaggeration, it has some true serious roots, Michael Flynn alone (and it's not him alone) justifies the attention. The warnings of many current or former members of CIA, FBI, NSA justify it. The Russia connections deserve being looked into, this is not a partisan stance. You have to be deeply partisan to see that differently.
So after Comey confirmed there was an investigation going on, the whole picture changed dramatically.
Especially after that, Democrats sure did not ask Trump to fire the guy investigating him. You can see that as partisan change of heart, but it's also just a logical one. Whatever they asked before (which was resignation, which is something different than being fired by the president, but whatever) can't seriously be held against them now. It's gotten a completely different flavor under completely different circumstances. To not acknowledge that is just intellectual dishonesty.
I beg to differ, sir. Democrats have been accusing Comey of costing Hillary the election since 11/09/17 and have been howling for his blood. You don't get to throw it in reverse for thirst now simply because Trump fired him. Let me ask you this, if there is a real Russian connection, actual solid proof that Trump colluded with Russia to steal the US presidency, do you really think firing Comey, now, prevents that from ultimate discovery? I would argue that to believe this is the height of naivete. The Trump campaign has been under investigation for its alleged ties to Russia since long before election day, no solid proof has yet to be provided. Is your assertion really that Comey's removal is the linchpin in assuring that such evidence is never procured?
In summation, it is absolutely a fair assessment. Yesterday's howl for the scaffold has turned into today's cries for martyrdom. You make the accusation of intellectual dishonesty, allow me to suggest that you have succumbed to the same malady of which you accuse others.
