It's Draft Time: Impeachment Edition

[Dill]

(05-11-2017, 08:28 PM)bfine32 Wrote: If you truly believe this, then I must question your judgement. If he would have fired Comey his first day in office, you really don't think there would be just as many people shouting: "He fired Comey without giving him a chance because Comey chose recommended not to pursue charges against Hillary!!"

You are missing something here, Bfine, and I am guessing it is because you don't really see the Russian investigation as serious and necessary and you still don't see Trump's instability and incompetence, or you do see it but don't recognize it as a problem with serious consequences for government. Democrats concerns aren't motivated by any existing problem of national security aggravated now by Trump's obstruction, so to you their complaints are just what you expect anytime and all the time. "Trump sure is bad." Nothing more.

Many Democrats DEFINITELY wanted to see Comey fired for throwing the election. Had Trump done so in January and February, and had he planned the move with a ready explanation and a replacement. I don't see any reason why they would protest--though they might criticize a replacement like Guilliani.

(05-11-2017, 08:28 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Now here's a chance to demonstrate your judgement once more:

If he would have waited until after the investigation and if cleared how many people do you think would have suggested: "Comey is in Trump's pocket and it goes all the way back to him reopening the investigation against Hills".

I cannot demonstrate Hollo's judgment here, but I can demonstrate my own: Why in the world would Democrats argue that Trump fired Comey because Comey was in Trump's pocket?????  WHO DOES THAT???

No one would be suggesting this.

So we are back to the moment when, after ranting at Comey on TV, Trump orders his DOJ people to prepare a letter firing Comey after the latter refers to feeling nauseous about the election and requested more resources for the investigation and refused to pledge loyalty to Trump over dinner. His surrogates give conflicting accounts of how the firing came about, suggesting Trump was only acting on DOJ advice. Trump himself said Comey was "showboating" and just doing a bad job, having lost the confidence of the FBI, which Comey's replacement flatly denies. He reiterates that the Russian investigation is a "made up story." He says he wanted the investigation "to be done"--this in an interview explaining the firing. 

It is "questionable" then to suppose Trump fired Comey not because of the initially stated reason, but because he was ramping up the investigation???

Democrats are not sorry for Comey. This is not about Comey. This is about national security and cover up.