Trump Loyalists

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(05-20-2017, 10:21 PM)hollodero Wrote: Is this thread through? Good. Then I can abuse it.

Since subtle posts get zero audience here's a message to the Trump loyalists and the Trump haters: You're all morons. Really. There are only two kinds of people in this world, idiots and me, so the conclusion isn't far fetched. But I can expand.

Here's the Trump loyalist: He forces his brain to believe things that contradict everyday logic. It's their trench, as is drawing false equivalencies, also irrelevant equivalencies, distractions, layers of talking points serving as protection to address the truth, from the opponent and from himself, probably. Now he either doesn't see the contradiction and hangs around on Breitbart. Or he does see and dislikes Breitbart, does not watch Hannity, but nonetheless promotes their agenda, for it's the only one helping Trump. They know that there's a whole lot wrong with Trump. You can even persuaede them partially if you're moderate and respectful. They come out of the trenches if lured by reason that doesn't condemn. But as soon as the first anti-Trump comes along and says something slightly condescending, which could be more or less anyone, they snap back to the trench, as if held by a rubberband suddenly contracting.

Here's the Trump hater: He considers the Trump loyalist to be stupid. Which isn't inherently wrong, the wrong thing is that he thinks he himself isn't. He wonders why he can't get through to the loyalists, he wonders in 10.000 respectless, condescending terms. And he always overdoes it. Goes to places where he leaves the grounds of logic too, giving the other side marvellous talking points. Tells lies of his own, although more sophisticated. 24 million will get thrown off healthcare! Dramatic! Terrible! Misleading! Because in fact, most of these people will opt out voluntarily, which changes the whole narrative. But he rather sticks with the misleading "thrown off" term and gets all worked up on that - as if the new health care plan wasn't bad enough as it stands. Which, of course, it is, no misdirection necessary. But let's better overdo it. The often cited bubble doesn't just keep existing because of inner forces. It also doesn't pop because of outer forces.

Where are the moderates? They aren't remotely interesting. They go down in the debate. And the more extreme things get, the less important is reason. Trump, being as extreme as he is in many ways, is perfectly designed to rile up a political society like yours. If by chance or by planning, I do not yet know, but he is. However the outcome of all of this, the moderates, reasonable, consensus-oriented folk are the definite losers.

In other words, it is hopeless. I can not stress that enough, just like John Cleese. There is no hope.

Now do not get me wrong, I do not stand in the middle here. The Trump haters are right, all facts and hints and implications point to that, also everything Trump says, does or tweets. The Trump loyalists are in all probability on the wrong side of history. And after 100 days of Trump being president Trump, there's no excuse any longer. Standing by him now, even when mixed with slight critizism, means you probably have to own it for centuries to come. No point of yours is ever going to be completely valid ever again, for you were the guy sticking with the undermined government and it's incompetent, completely unfit ego-balloon on the top. Just because he wasn't an evil liberal, just because the other side can't possibly be right, the only explanation making any sense. Party over country.

Oh and btw. Obama warned Trump about Flynn. Now that is putting country over party. Hate Obama or like him, but it is. He could have kept silent and let Trump run into this open knife, what he of course did anyway, but still. In general, "the right" is worse than "the left", and way more often deliberately detached from facts and logic. No agenda, just observation. Still denying climate change alone underlines that.

Imho.
And no, I wasn't completely serious. But I still hope I didn't not offend anyone. You're also ugly, by the way. Yes, especially you.

lol . . .wait . . .what. . . ME???