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Holy ********* Crazy
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(05-31-2017, 01:54 PM)michaelsean Wrote: Oh boo hoo.  They feel like they don't have any representation.  A lot of us feel that way with candidates.  Don't invest yourself so much in a candidate.  When I see people crying with joy at a convention or crying in sorrow when their candidate loses I'm thinking what is wrong with you?  If our country all of a sudden takes a sharp left, and I start throwing rocks, do you think anyone is going to be saying, "Awww he just feels disenfranchised." 

You're acting as if I find any of this to mean the violence is excusable. Finding an explanation for the violence is not the same as excusing it. I decry all acts of violence because I find them all to be abhorrent. I'm a pacifist and don't find any of it to be excusable, but I'm also someone that enjoys the social sciences and so looking for explanations of the behavior is something I enjoy doing.

As for the first bit of your response, what you seem to be missing is that there is no one out there that represents some segments of the population. There are people that have no opportunity to have their views represented in our government, not even getting the chance to cast a vote for them. It's one of the flaws of the two-party system. This is disenfranchisement, and the system is not set up in its current form to correct for this. Wars have been fought over people not being represented, our country was founded after one such war. I don't see the disenfranchisement in our current situation to be as serious as that of the colonists but the citizens of our country are very underrepresented, left, right, and middle compared to other western democracies. The politicians aren't addressing it, and the attitude you have expressed in your response is the reason why the voters aren't demanding change. People see it through the lens of sour grapes and only look at the surface of the issue instead of seeking out an understanding of the root cause and looking for a solution.
"A great democracy has got to be progressive, or it will soon cease to be either great or a democracy..." - TR

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little." - FDR





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Holy ********* Crazy - TheLeonardLeap - 05-30-2017, 10:18 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - 6andcounting - 05-30-2017, 10:24 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-30-2017, 10:46 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 10:48 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-30-2017, 10:50 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 11:00 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-30-2017, 11:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 01:55 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Griever - 05-31-2017, 10:05 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-31-2017, 10:07 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 10:08 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-31-2017, 10:10 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Griever - 05-31-2017, 10:12 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 10:46 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - BmorePat87 - 05-31-2017, 09:20 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 10:47 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 11:13 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - TheLeonardLeap - 05-30-2017, 11:19 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 11:26 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-30-2017, 11:37 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 11:41 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 01:23 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 06:56 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 12:48 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 10:58 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-31-2017, 10:59 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 11:34 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 02:40 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Benton - 05-30-2017, 11:34 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 11:36 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 10:54 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - TheLeonardLeap - 05-31-2017, 02:04 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 02:21 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 02:30 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - TheLeonardLeap - 05-31-2017, 03:10 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 05:48 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 07:21 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 05-31-2017, 03:34 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 07:37 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 01:14 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-01-2017, 02:04 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Benton - 06-01-2017, 02:14 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-02-2017, 08:30 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 06-02-2017, 11:26 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-03-2017, 08:59 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 06-05-2017, 12:52 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Aquapod770 - 06-05-2017, 04:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-06-2017, 06:40 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-01-2017, 05:17 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-02-2017, 08:41 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - jason - 06-02-2017, 11:07 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 10:42 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 06-01-2017, 08:55 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-01-2017, 09:09 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - HarleyDog - 05-30-2017, 11:03 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Millhouse - 05-30-2017, 11:11 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-30-2017, 11:14 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 10:51 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Millhouse - 05-31-2017, 04:37 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 09:08 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 09:38 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 11:00 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 11:47 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 02:07 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 01:54 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - BmorePat87 - 05-31-2017, 09:16 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Bengalzona - 05-31-2017, 09:36 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - BmorePat87 - 05-31-2017, 09:37 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 09:32 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 09:35 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Bengalzona - 05-31-2017, 09:52 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 09:59 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Bengalzona - 05-31-2017, 10:57 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Griever - 05-31-2017, 10:13 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 11:08 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 12:05 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 12:08 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 12:17 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 02:01 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 02:22 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 04:26 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 04:30 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 08:56 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 09:03 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 09:29 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 09:39 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 09:45 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 10:07 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 05-31-2017, 11:42 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 11:24 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - SunsetBengal - 05-31-2017, 11:07 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - NATI BENGALS - 06-01-2017, 12:35 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vas Deferens - 06-01-2017, 01:30 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - BmorePat87 - 05-31-2017, 10:21 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 10:26 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-01-2017, 07:51 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 10:25 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-01-2017, 11:30 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - SunsetBengal - 06-01-2017, 12:08 PM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 10:23 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - BmorePat87 - 05-31-2017, 10:27 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 11:26 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 10:28 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 10:30 AM
RE: Holy Shitballs Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 11:05 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 12:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 11:53 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 05-31-2017, 01:37 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 12:52 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 01:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 02:15 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 01:07 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 03:36 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 04:46 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 07:20 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 04:23 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 05-31-2017, 03:41 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 03:46 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 06:10 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 05-31-2017, 03:55 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 04:39 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 05:16 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 05-31-2017, 05:42 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 05:54 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 11:08 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 05-31-2017, 06:45 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Nebuchadnezzar - 05-31-2017, 09:21 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 09:25 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Nebuchadnezzar - 05-31-2017, 10:21 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 05-31-2017, 10:28 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vlad - 05-31-2017, 10:29 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Benton - 05-31-2017, 10:58 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Benton - 05-31-2017, 09:44 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - NATI BENGALS - 05-31-2017, 09:45 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 05-31-2017, 10:20 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 07:43 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 12:34 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 06-01-2017, 08:43 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 12:48 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Vas Deferens - 06-01-2017, 10:12 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 11:13 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 11:36 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 12:55 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 11:40 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 11:50 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 11:54 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-01-2017, 12:00 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-01-2017, 12:59 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - CageTheBengal - 06-01-2017, 12:07 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 01:31 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - CageTheBengal - 06-01-2017, 02:19 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 02:24 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - CageTheBengal - 06-01-2017, 02:28 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 02:49 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - CageTheBengal - 06-01-2017, 02:37 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 02:48 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - CageTheBengal - 06-01-2017, 03:21 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 03:35 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 12:07 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 02:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-01-2017, 05:29 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-02-2017, 08:50 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-02-2017, 09:37 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-02-2017, 11:50 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-02-2017, 02:18 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-03-2017, 08:53 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-03-2017, 09:41 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-01-2017, 05:41 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-02-2017, 08:35 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-01-2017, 03:38 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-01-2017, 05:56 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Nebuchadnezzar - 06-01-2017, 06:57 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - ballsofsteel - 06-02-2017, 05:08 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - SunsetBengal - 06-02-2017, 07:11 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-02-2017, 08:59 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-04-2017, 09:49 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-04-2017, 12:30 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-05-2017, 01:49 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Bengalzona - 06-06-2017, 12:46 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 12:51 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-06-2017, 01:23 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BengalHawk62 - 06-06-2017, 01:23 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 01:30 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BengalHawk62 - 06-06-2017, 01:48 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Bengalzona - 06-06-2017, 05:47 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Bengalzona - 06-06-2017, 05:59 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Benton - 06-07-2017, 05:44 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-07-2017, 06:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Bengalzona - 06-07-2017, 08:59 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 01:44 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Bengalzona - 06-06-2017, 05:56 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Belsnickel - 06-06-2017, 01:50 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 06-06-2017, 08:03 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - NATI BENGALS - 06-06-2017, 08:12 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Rotobeast - 06-07-2017, 02:03 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-07-2017, 12:39 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - TheLeonardLeap - 06-12-2017, 04:34 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 03:39 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - TheLeonardLeap - 06-13-2017, 05:51 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 09:49 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-13-2017, 11:36 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-13-2017, 11:47 AM
RE: Trump stabbed to death - Rotobeast - 06-13-2017, 07:51 PM
Kathy Griffin - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-03-2017, 11:41 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BmorePat87 - 06-04-2017, 12:28 PM
RE: Kathy Griffin - Millhouse - 06-03-2017, 11:49 AM
RE: Kathy Griffin - Sociopathicsteelerfan - 06-03-2017, 12:16 PM
RE: Kathy Griffin - ballsofsteel - 06-03-2017, 03:13 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Bengalzona - 06-03-2017, 04:41 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-05-2017, 02:42 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-06-2017, 11:43 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-05-2017, 08:00 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-06-2017, 11:40 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 11:44 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-06-2017, 11:47 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 11:56 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-06-2017, 11:58 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 12:02 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-06-2017, 12:04 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 12:10 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 06-06-2017, 01:27 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 01:42 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 02:11 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - BengalHawk62 - 06-06-2017, 03:21 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 03:41 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - NATI BENGALS - 06-06-2017, 06:49 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 11:21 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - xxlt - 06-09-2017, 07:35 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Matt_Crimson - 06-06-2017, 02:16 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-06-2017, 02:20 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 03:49 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 09:46 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-06-2017, 11:16 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-07-2017, 03:59 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-07-2017, 08:58 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-07-2017, 12:03 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-08-2017, 04:33 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-12-2017, 11:21 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-12-2017, 11:37 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-12-2017, 12:30 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-12-2017, 01:22 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-12-2017, 03:30 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - michaelsean - 06-12-2017, 05:05 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 12:56 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 01:24 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 12:55 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 11:22 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - GMDino - 06-13-2017, 11:28 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 11:04 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-14-2017, 01:49 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-14-2017, 02:07 AM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-13-2017, 11:08 AM
Trump stabbed to death - Vlad - 06-13-2017, 05:51 PM
RE: Holy ********* Crazy - Dill - 06-14-2017, 02:17 AM
RE: Trump stabbed to death - GMDino - 06-13-2017, 05:56 PM

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