Holy ********* Crazy

[*michaelsean*]

(05-31-2017, 03:36 PM)Belsnickel Wrote: You're acting as if I find any of this to mean the violence is excusable. Finding an explanation for the violence is not the same as excusing it. I decry all acts of violence because I find them all to be abhorrent. I'm a pacifist and don't find any of it to be excusable, but I'm also someone that enjoys the social sciences and so looking for explanations of the behavior is something I enjoy doing.

As for the first bit of your response, what you seem to be missing is that there is no one out there that represents some segments of the population. There are people that have no opportunity to have their views represented in our government, not even getting the chance to cast a vote for them. It's one of the flaws of the two-party system. This is disenfranchisement, and the system is not set up in its current form to correct for this. Wars have been fought over people not being represented, our country was founded after one such war. I don't see the disenfranchisement in our current situation to be as serious as that of the colonists but the citizens of our country are very underrepresented, left, right, and middle compared to other western democracies. The politicians aren't addressing it, and the attitude you have expressed in your response is the reason why the voters aren't demanding change. People see it through the lens of sour grapes and only look at the surface of the issue instead of seeking out an understanding of the root cause and looking for a solution.

So someone's whose view is in the extreme minority isn't being represented because they don't have a person who is going to lose to vote for?  The Republican in LA feels better because he gets to cast a losing vote?  

The colonists had zero representation as a whole.  They didn't revolt because some people didn't think their point of view was being represented.  They revolted because they had no representation period.

If the majority of people don't want it changed, then that's what we are as a people.  If someone is 30 years old, and no candidate from mayor to President  has yet to represent their lofty views properly, then maybe the problem is with them.