Holy ********* Crazy

[GMDino]

(05-31-2017, 09:29 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: But the problem is that you're using that claim as a basis for arguing against cracking down on illegals, or am I wrong?

Yep.  You're wrong.

I was responding to these two posts.

(05-31-2017, 12:05 PM)Vlad Wrote: This kind of logic is adorable.

 Give me your tired, your poor, your criminals, murderers, drug dealers because we already have them anyway.

(05-31-2017, 12:08 PM)Matt_Crimson Wrote: Yeah, seems pretty strange to me.

By saying that immigrant are less likely to commit crimes than citizens.

(05-31-2017, 12:17 PM)GMDino Wrote: It's not asking for those people to come here.

It's explaining that while some people who immigrate here (both legally and illegally) may be bad people the vast majority are not.  In fact you have a better chance of someone who was born and raised here doing a violent act than an immigrant.

It's not to invite in the worst of the worst...it's to explain that using the fear what "might happen" to make people afraid of all foreigners.

I also mentioned that illegal ones here commit less crimes....but not defend illegal immigration...just as a point made by the two sources provided.

So back to my point:  Vlad and you (by your follow up post) said that we should turn away immigrants (all) because there are people here who commit crimes.  I pointed out (with links) that the immigrants don't commit those crimes (that Vlad said) at the same rate as citizens so we'd actually lower the crime rate by allowing immigrants.

And using the fear of what "might happen" is wrong as a fact or as a thought.